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Sept. 20, 2022

The Flow: Episode 7 - Podcast Perseverance with Aubry Robinson

The Flow: Episode 7 - Podcast Perseverance with Aubry Robinson

The Flow: Episode 7 - Podcast Perseverance with Aubry Robinson : The Flow: Episode 7 - Podcast Perseverance with Aubry Robinson

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Podcasting, especially video podcasting, can be a great way to share your message with the world. There are so many things to learn and do, but it's hard to know where to start if you've never done it before.

Producing a podcast can seem daunting at first; it's easy to feel overwhelmed when you're starting something new. Using a Video First approach with Ecamm Live will make it much easier and save you lots of time.

The Flow is here to help. We'll take you step-by-step through creating a video podcast, from planning and production to promotion and monetization. You'll learn how to build an efficient workflow that will make your content shine, leaving you to focus on creating great content.

In this episode, we discuss working through the obstacles and finding a way to persevere with Aubry Howell Robinson.


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Transcript
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Hello everybody.

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And welcome to The Flow.

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I am Doc Rock your community manager and

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I'm Katie Fawkes.

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Yo, thank you.

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Welcome to the special edition of The Flow.

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We are recording live from the hotel here in Cleveland, Ohio.

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Cleveland is amazing.

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Cleveland rocks.

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I didn't grow up here, but I spent every summer here because my grand

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lived here and it was punishment to get sent to Cleveland for the summer

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because Cleveland was such a words I can't say on the podcast, but it

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is pretty now it's all dressed up.

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Brown stadium is right out my window.

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Everybody out here has a vibe.

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Now it's a really cool Cosmo city and I'm loving it.

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I can't believe I'm gonna say this.

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I can't wait to tell my sisters, Hey man, Cleveland changed.

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It's not where we grew up.

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Even the lake right here, Erie.

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We used to go there and we were kids and there was stuff floating on the top.

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Now it's pretty.

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Yeah, it is.

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It's been a gorgeous city to walk around in.

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It's really nice.

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So we are here for Content Marketing World.

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Correct.

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Which is gonna be absolutely incredible.

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So hopefully you'll follow along with us on our Instagram channel.

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If you wanna see some behind the scenes and special reels and bonus content.

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Doc is speaking.

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But what's been cool about it is that the setup process and the breakdown process

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kind of are in their own distinctive times on either side of the conference.

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So it's given us a little bit of time to actually all get here safely, decompress

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for a bit, have a nice, you know, team meet up, get everything all set

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up before the event itself kicks off.

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And kind of do stuff.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, that has been super, super good.

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I must say that I'm excited to be going with this, especially this

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new series that we're working on.

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We are working on a special series for Leap Into Podcasting, which

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is our show, which is coming up on 29th and 30th of September.

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Mm-hmm.

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So hopefully you're listening in time to get yourself ready.

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Yep.

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You can go to Leap into podcasting.com.

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It's gonna be amazing.

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Yep.

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And how much does it cost?

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Free!

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My favorite number.

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It's my favorite.

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I will say if you're like, oh, free, like, you know, I just

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really wanna pay you guys.

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We hear you.

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We hear you.

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We do have both virtual digital as well as physical planners.

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So if you want something extra, you want either a tangible or a digital

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version of that, the planners, which are great for the whole year, as well as

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to take notes during the event itself, they are for sale for really cheap.

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They're like it's 25 for the digital planner and 35 for the physical planner,

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but they come with replay access, not only for this year's sessions, but

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for last year's and the year before.

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So if you're new to Ecamm or you haven't been to any of our events before you

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will get all of our past sessions, which is just an insane amount of

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content that you could work through.

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Probably it'll take you like a year to get through all the content, all the content.

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But I think it's a really great opportunity.

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This is our first year of doing all live sessions.

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So we wanted to make sure that we gave everyone the chance to be able

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to have replay access in case you're not able to take time off on those

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two days and really dive in with us.

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But, we hope you do.

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I think it really will be a worthwhile, valuable experience to catch things

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live and be able to actually.

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You know, I, I do find it funny that there's always this kind of push between

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all live sessions, all pre-recorded sessions and people literally get

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irritated that they go to conferences where the sessions are pre-recorded.

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The information is the information.

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Yeah.

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The only advantage of a live session is you could talk to people in the chat, but

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you can do that by entering community.

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So to me, if I give you an advice, don't pin yourself on which way is better.

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Use both to the best of your ability.

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Yeah.

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Like, is a steak better on the grill or in the frying pan?

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Both.

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Like, why would you limit yourself to which one you like better, especially

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if you can't always pull out a grill.

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Now, if you live somewhere where you could always pull

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out a grill, Hey, I understand.

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But if you're in a condo, learn how to work the frying pan.

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Like learn how to get what you get out, whatever you're getting.

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That's the, I guess the end all be all to that speech.

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One last thing before we bring in our studio audience guests.

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Well, not really cuz they're remote.

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Okay.

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I'm tripping.

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I did wanna say to everyone listening at home, thank you so much for listening.

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We made it to $500 and we are recording episode seven, which is a

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milestone in podcasts because they say most podcasts eat it before seven

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episodes and yeah, it's just a thing.

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So I want to support that and say, thank you to all you guys.

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Also a reminder.

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If you can please go to the iTunes podcast place and leave a review,

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let us know what you think.

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One of the best things you can do to show a podcast you care, you like

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them or whatever is leave a review.

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And share it with people who you think might get some value outta hearing what

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those podcasters are talking about.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And I think it's like absolutely perfect timing because today's

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episode is all about overcoming obstacles and excuses and persevering.

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So it couldn't be better timing than to have it now when we've

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made it, made it to this point.

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So, and I think it'll be, it's gonna be great.

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This is our first, very first interview on the podcast and we are kicking

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off three weeks of special guests and cool extra content as we get ready

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and excited for Leap Into Podcasting.

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So huge, huge, thank you to our amazing guest today and our guests that are

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joining us for the next little bit, make sure that if you aren't able to

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join us for the live studio audience for these episodes, then definitely,

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you know, either catch them on replay on YouTube or pop us in your ear while

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you're jogging or cleaning or doing whatever are driving, doing whatever else.

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But this is gonna be extra special, awesome content.

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So I just had a very funny thought because you're talking and then

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I'm over here shaking my head, realizing that the audio people

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cannot see even the size of my head.

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You can't see it shaking.

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I do that a lot.

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Yeah.

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It's super funny.

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So that's something that you, that's why you want to come to the live tapings.

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Trust me, come to the live tapings, every Tuesday, 12:00 PM on the Ecamm

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YouTube channel, then you'll see me shaking my head in real life.

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Okay.

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Let's bring on our guest because you just mentioned something about overcoming

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excuses, overcoming obstacles, and just like just having that, just get

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it done at whatever cost mentality.

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And so I'm excited to have our first guest on, because she is an amazing example

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of not letting anything get in your way.

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I have the benefit of being a mentor to her.

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I have a benefit of being a friend of hers and seriously one of

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the coolest people in the world.

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And I love saying that I get to know her because every time I feel

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like I don't wanna do something, I have the, like the bracelet

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what would Aubrey do?

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So ladies and gentlemen, let's say what's up to our friend, Aubrey?

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What's up, Aubs?

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All right, Aubs, will you give us a quick who are you and

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why are you joining us today?

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Correct.

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Yeah.

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So, Hey, I'm Aubrey.

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I go by SimplyAubs pretty much everywhere on the internet.

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And I was, well, I can go through all the things I'm like, yeah.

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I was over 300 pounds.

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It was crazy.

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I lost 160.

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Woo.

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Awesome.

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So then I was like, I can do anything.

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So I learned how to code.

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What?!

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Became a software engineer, went out in San Francisco.

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What?

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So then, I'm like, this is awesome.

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Training with friends and to ride from San Francisco to LA

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over seven days, 545 miles.

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And I had an accident.

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So, but Hey, they thought I wouldn't make it through the night, I'd die,

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but, I'm kind of stubborn and I'm here.

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So, very excited about that.

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So let's we wanted to keep this like super like natural, right?

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We don't want to get it to polished up.

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So I guess a question for the people that don't know you, what advice would

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you give to someone who still finds themselves on that perfection kick?

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Oh, man, the perfection kick, huh?

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Yeah.

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I like how you laugh because we have this conversation so often.

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I'm like, yeah.

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Do you want me to just point right there?

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Don't be so hard on yourself.

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There you go.

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Don't be so hard on yourself.

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I see it all the time, but yeah.

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Perfection is the mustard.

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Perfection does not exist, so, yep.

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Don't worry.

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Putting that on shirt.

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But basically.

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Well, you hear my voice.

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I'm like, my voice kept me from actually getting on recording videos

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for five years or something because I'm like, after my accident, I mean I

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used to speak for a living partially, like I was software engineer, but

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I was like on the enablement team.

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So I kind of taught our people how you know, or how to work the software.

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So I'm like, wait a second.

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So I used to be able to do this good.

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And now I sound weird.

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What?

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So.

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I mean, it was, I'm thankful that now five, six years now I'm finally saying

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stuff, but I'm like, go back to the video of, I had just recorded a commercial

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for the bootcamp, coding bootcamp I did.

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And I'm like, Oh, my gosh.

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It was like so different.

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I was like, that's who I was.

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But speaking of...

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like, Doc was like, oh, you probably wouldn't have even hung out with us.

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I'm like what?

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So I think it's funny cuz I'm like, oh dude, you have no idea.

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It's hilarious.

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Cuz I'm like I was so terrified back then, I was like extremely anxious

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to stuff, but I think I hid it well.

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Now I'm just like, here you go.

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This is who I am.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It's funny cuz that's the running joke in our group is, you know, cause

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she's always like, well, I wanna be like the Aubrey that I used to be.

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And I'm like, we don't know that girl, the hell with that girl,

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that girl was probably mean to us.

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And wouldn't be our friend and blah, blah.

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But the Aubs we got now loves us to death and we love her.

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So we like the Aubs that we have now.

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We don't care about the old Aubrey.

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Yeah, it's super funny cause I just heard something recently and it's something

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that not only, I love so much, I'm going to teach as many people as possible.

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The, you, you are right now.

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It is impossible for you to be the you that you were even five years ago.

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Because the way the human body works, every cell in your body

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dies and replicates itself within a certain amount of time.

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So there's not a single cell in your body today that was there five years ago.

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When the cell doesn't die and lives forever, you know what that's called?

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Cancer.

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Mmm.

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Right.

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So by the nature of science, you can't possibly be the you that you used to be.

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It doesn't exist.

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So get over I want to be back the way I was at some X, Y,

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Z, cuz that's impossible.

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Scientifically not a single cell in your body is still there.

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And I think too, like it's.

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I love your story Aubrey, because it's an epitome of you remembering all of the

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things that you were great at, but then you also said that those were things

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that you felt nervous about and you were overthinking it at that point as well.

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And I think that's a good reminder for all of us that, you know, often you'll see

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someone up on stage or someone speaking on a video or in a podcast and you're like

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oh, you know, I'm never like, it's that comparison, right?

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Like I'm never gonna get to sound as good as them, or like, I, you know,

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I'm never gonna get that video to be as great as I did that one day.

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We're always thinking that something was better than it was or forgetting

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what all of those feelings were inside.

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Like we're always kind of overcoming that feeling of inadequacy or the

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feeling or, or the nerves or the, you know, anything, that's kind of keeping

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us there, even when we had our best moments, like even when we look back and

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that was like our best moment in that moment, there was still the nerves and

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there was still all that other stuff.

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So why wouldn't you have it now?

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Or why wouldn't you still have those kinds of feelings that pop up now?

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It's more about how you deal with them.

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Right?

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Right.

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Like how you, how you get past it, how you're able to make an executive

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decision on how to react to something.

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Yeah.

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Everything you do.

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People say everything is choices.

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They're correct.

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And somebody said, well, I didn't, they have a choice

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because, so, and so did so and so.

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No, but you always have the choice of how you react to it.

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Yeah.

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So you can let it consume you, take you over, or you can

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use it as a driving factor.

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And one of the reasons why I love Aubrey because she decided in so many

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different cases along the way to use her accident or the way she was feeling as

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motivation to do something different, do something better, do something extra.

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In that thought, Aubrey, we have your show.

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I know what it is, so it's hard for me not to spill the beans cuz I know what it is.

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Can you explain your show to people and what you're doing?

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Correct.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So every morning, 7:00 AM Eastern time, but I have a little

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morning motivational minute-ish.

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That's my favorite part.

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Ish is like my favorite word now after the accident, cuz I'm

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like, nothing's exact at all.

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It's all ish, you know, just ish.

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Yeah.

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I'll be there around five ish.

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He'll start about 12 ish.

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You know, I mean, Hey, I'm still gonna do it, but you know, there's that ish.

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Well, the ish gives you that level of permission to do it,

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but to give yourself some grace.

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Grace.

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Right?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I love it.

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See, there you go.

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Yep.

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It's super funny.

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I think the thing I like about the morning minute-ish is my interpretation

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is because Aubrey, like myself, we'll do random sidetracks in the

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middle of what you're talking about.

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So the minute becomes three because you just go, Hey, oh, stop or squirrel.

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And you just go the other directions.

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Yeah.

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Squirrel.

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So I like that part of it.

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And I like, when you say Katie, it allows you, the grace to make

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the adjustments accordingly.

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Yeah.

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All of the above is cool.

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Two questions that are linked together.

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What was the point that made you want to go live or create video kind of the,

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you know, your, the, before you, and then the, now you, what was the point

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that said like, okay, I need to do this.

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What about video made you need to do it?

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And then how did that translate into what you do now?

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I mean, to do a daily show is a lot.

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So like, how did you kind of, what was that?

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What was that path?

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Well, actually the path let's see.

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Well, firstly, we'll just talk motivation.

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I'm like, um, so I need a lot of it.

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All the time.

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And I'm like, okay, well, if I need it, I'm sure there's others, right?

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So I'm like, you know what?

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I'll get it for me, but by speaking it out, like I'm able to

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share with others and I'm like, everybody needs a motivation, right?

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Yep.

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Like, no matter what you're going through, like you have a crazy day and your boss

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is yelling at you or your kids are running around being all crazy or, you know?

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All sorts of things can happen.

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One thing's the same, get a little motivation.

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Oh, that's pretty awesome.

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You know, and so I want to say the whole shortish minute-ish it's like,

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it's more of a bite size thing.

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So yeah.

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I'm not like Doc going on and waxing rhapsodically like about what is it?

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Basket.

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Ancient Mesopotamian Basket Weaving.

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I'm like, so there's not all that.

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And, I'm like, Hey, let's keep it short.

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Let's keep it sweet.

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Let's condense it and go for it.

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So that is so good.

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I was okay.

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First of all, we're gonna fight.

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Cause Aubrey likes to tell us that she forgets everything, but she remembered

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that I always say wax rhapsodically, and she remembered my example is always

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Ancient Mesopotamian Basket Weaving.

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Probably two of the hardest things to remember, or you remember that

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you remember me saying dumb stuff.

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Okay, cool.

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I thought we were friends, Aubs.

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I'm just saying.

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That makes I again though.

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Like I think it, this is an important thing for everyone listening and

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watching to really take home because I think a lot of what gets in the way of

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wanting to create a podcast or wanting to create a show, a live show or a

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recorded show, especially a live show is this idea of you think it's much

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bigger than it is or than it needs to be.

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And so I love that you said, okay, I really need to have

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these motivational moments.

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So I'm gonna broadcast these motivational moments because it

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keeps you consistent, make sure that you're doing it, but it also it

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helps other people, which is awesome.

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But you knew that it would need to be brief and attainable because

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that's the kind of content it was.

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And that's what you were able to handle and to manage.

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And it felt like an approachable task.

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I think every time, you know, we think about shows, we're always

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like, well, you know, it's gotta be an hour and it's gotta have, you

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know, this like format and workflow.

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It doesn't.

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It really matters more about what your content is what your goals are and what

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you need to do in order to be consistent.

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You know, when I worked in social media marketing, the advice we gave all the

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time to people that were opening up new social accounts or businesses that

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were starting to get into marketing, it was like, they're like, well, I

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should open it at all the channels.

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And I was like, you should pick your favorite social channel and start

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there if you wanna, if you wanna add on stuff later because it's manageable

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or because that's a growth idea.

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Great.

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But when you open up an account on, you know, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn,

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Twitter, and then, and then you realize all of those take, you know, whatever

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amount of time for you to populate all the time, then it's really easy to say,

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like, whoa, okay, I'm in over my head.

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I can't do that.

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I need to parent.

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I need to, I need to stop doing it.

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I'm busy this week.

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I can't.

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All the excuses come in because you've made it not attainable.

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So what you've done is great because you set yourself up, you've set

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yourself up even by calling it ish by making it shorter, you've still done.

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Like the, even doing it daily is still a lot, but you've given yourself that

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level of grace and permission to say it's not gonna be the same every single time.

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It's gonna be what I'm able to manage.

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It's not going to ever really be all that long.

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And the goal is really to just help myself and people that

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are listening and watching.

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We just talked about recently with the crew that.

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This is from Rich back when we did our original Vlogmas, we got to a day, and

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Rich is doing his regular business.

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He was super busy, but he didn't wanna miss a day.

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And so in order to maintain his consistency, Rich came on, he said, Hey

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everyone, this is Vlogmas day seven or whatever, just wanna say, what's up.

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I hope your holidays are doing five XYZ.

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And I got nothing.

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So I see you tomorrow.

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And that was his entire video, but that was better than skipping because

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like we talked about in the pre-show.

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A lot of times skipping crushes your momentum and then it's a problem.

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It gives you a different level of permission.

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You're giving yourself the permission to take a break.

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Yes.

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And then it's much easier to say, well, you know, I didn't, I gave myself

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permission to take a break than it like threw off my repurposing plan, or I didn't

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have the content for like, For this.

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And so then it's easier to say, okay, well also in the following

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week or I'm more busy now than I was when I gave myself the break.

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So you are opening up your excuses in the other way.

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So well, so this is why I have a problem with the entire Creator

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community absorbing this burnout thing.

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Yes, I get it.

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Burnout is real.

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A hundred percent, but when you know you have it, yes.

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Do it.

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When you are just like, I don't feel like doing it and I'm gonna label it burnout.

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It's a little one disingenuine to the people that are actually

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having like a full on mental break.

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And it's also setting yourself up for failure.

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You're not cheating us.

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You're cheating yourself because you're gonna have a hard time going

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again once you take that break.

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Yeah.

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So you even have to be careful.

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Similar to the pharmaceutical commercials and they start going

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through the list of symptoms and then you go, oh man, I got all of those.

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And then you start asking your doctor.

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It's the same thing.

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Don't hear other people talk about their burnout or their issues and start

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looking for those problems in yourself.

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Cause they might not exist.

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Right.

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And so one of the things that Aubs and I talk about a lot is I was like, Aubs,

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you gotta keep sharing your stuff.

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And don't stop because every day someone has a accident that causes

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TBI, a traumatic brain injury and those people are gonna be looking to

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everyone likes representation, right?

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Yeah.

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They're gonna be looking to find someone like them or they can

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align with, and I feel like you're doing a fantastic job of that.

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Yeah.

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Number one.

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And my favorite thing is it allows me to not let any of my other

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students come with excuses, cuz I can say, Hey, Aubrey her work.

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You know?

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And so Aubrey just goes, yeah, I did my work.

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What are you doing?

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So it's kind of cool.

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Have people who've gone through similar accidents reached out to you?

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Um, that is a good question because I'm like.

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I really didn't find anyone for a long time who, how do you say it,

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had anything close to what I had?

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Yeah.

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If that makes sense.

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I'm like, it was mostly people who I had concussions.

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Yeah.

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Um, and I'm not saying one thing is better or worse.

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Okay.

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It's different.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Correct.

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Yeah.

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Like it's just interesting being like, okay, you can drive, right?

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I'm not allowed to drive.

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Wait, what?

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But no, it was what, four years before I met somebody who had

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something somewhat similar and wow.

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I'm like, uh, not the same ish using it again.

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So I'm like once again, which is crazy, but I'm like, I'm finding more.

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How do you see info?

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Yeah.

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In the stroke world.

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Yeah.

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Than I am in the TBI traumatic brain injury.

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Yeah.

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What?

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So, because basically my brain injury was like the adult

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version of shaken baby syndrome.

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Oh, wow.

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So like 10%.

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Of people survive.

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They gave me a 5% chance.

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Yeah, because you were such a miracle in getting through to the other side of that.

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You're like an exception.

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Correct.

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The exception to all of the other cases.

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In true Aubrey fashion, she kept gangster and kept going.

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See Aubrey, that's cool.

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And you know, I remember like I had a stroke, I had a Tia stroke and I remember

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coming out of it and having brain fog for a little bit, but it went away.

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So I think whether, you know it or not, you're probably still catching

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people, but I think to me, your biggest impact actually, Is stopping

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the excuse mobile for people.

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Because they can like, how can I look myself in the mirror and be like, I

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don't wanna do it today cuz I have a headache when Aubs just does it anyway?

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And does it with a smile on her face.

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Sometimes playing her guitar, sometimes having a whiskey at hand.

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Uh, sometimes we're jokes, you know, and it's funny.

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So yeah, I, I think I love the fact that you're doing what you're doing.

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I love the fact that you're showing you should just put your

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excuses aside and go for it.

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Yeah.

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And I like the fact that now you let your, your regular Aubrey flag fly.

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Like I'm gonna be the Aubrey that I am, and I'm not adjusting it for anybody.

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And it is just you.

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Yeah.

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I think that's so hugely important.

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And I feel like that's where the magic happens.

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I'm willing to bet that more people find benefit in what you're doing now, even

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versus what you were doing before your accident, where, you know, you were one

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of many that could help in a particular niche, certainly like it wasn't that you

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weren't good at what you were doing, but there was the kind of, I don't know, it

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feels like you are more authentically you and you're in this space where you are

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helping not only yourself, but others.

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You are an exception.

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Again, it's something where it's different than what everyone else is.

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It's funny, cuz that's where the real definition of the

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term exceptional comes from.

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Right.

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People tend to use it for like, I reach this pinnacle, but in a lot of cases,

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the pinnacle is something anybody could reach if they put the work in.

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Yeah.

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So that's not what exceptional technically means.

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People like to throw around these words without fully understanding.

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Aubrey, you are exceptional because you're being an exception to the rule,

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exception to the quote unquote norm.

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I hate that word.

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Things like that.

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So I appreciate you.

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And what you do, we talk about this all the time.

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In our studio audience, Todd had mentioned that he took the six month break off

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and it's something we talked about cuz Todd's also one of my students.

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Yeah.

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The thing that Todd stated in his statement is that the restarting

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was actually harder than beginning starting in the first time.

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Yeah.

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So if nothing else, try not to take those breaks because the

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restart is completely different.

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Here's how I like to help people understand.

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When you got no gas and you're pushing a car, that first couple

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of feet is freaking super hard.

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You're trying to move 2800, 3600 pounds.

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Once you get it going, say like a quarter of a block, you can push that

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sucker forever because long as it's on a flat ground, as it's moving.

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Yeah.

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It's gonna keep going with a little bit less, you know?

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The minute you stop again, gonna you gonna build that momentum.

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Yeah.

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And actually trying to stop it by pulling also very hard because

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the momentum is already going.

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So a lot of that resistance once is behind you.

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It no longer can pull you back, cuz anything, once it's in

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motions gonna stay in motion.

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Hey, somebody said that once.

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Yeah.

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In the world of podcasting, I would say that it is okay to take a quote

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unquote "break" if you have a show, if you've planned ahead and your show

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is the kind of show that has seasons.

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So yes, Kirk Nugent is a great example of this.

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You're planning your exception, right?

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Yeah.

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You're planning your breaks in advance, like which then a hundred percent.

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And that makes sense.

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If you have the kind of show where you are building a season around a particular

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topic or theme or, you know, I mean, I think Kirk has like guests lined up.

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I think there is still an overarching theme.

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Well, I know why Kirk has a seasons and I wanna tell his secret

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and nobody listening to this or watching the live audience tell Kirk

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I told you, but I know how his seasons work.

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His seasons go, go, go, go.

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Somehow they magically stop at the same time that his three kids get outta school.

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Yeah.

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I feel that.

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I feel that, Kirk.

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and they restart magically when his kids go back to school.

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Yeah.

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So current seasons are based around being the dad, which is brilliant, which

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is because, you know, you letting your audience know, they know what to expect.

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They know that they don't have to stress about missing an episode.

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Yeah.

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They also got them children to tend to.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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And then, so.

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And it feels like you're also building a momentum towards the

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launch of the new season, right?

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So it gives you a chance to stop course, correct.

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Reassess things, book, new guests, get new equipment, adjust

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equipment, remove equipment.

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So yeah.

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I agree with you, if you know that you're gonna have things

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scheduled, it's kind of cool.

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You can let it in and out.

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Yeah.

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So I love that.

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Aubs, I have to tell you something that's great because

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it came from my studio audience.

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It says Aubs saw the grim Reaper and threw him out the window.

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That's the best comment ever.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Moderator, Paul Duncan.

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Get out of here.

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I've got stuff to do.

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I'm happy to have you on as our first official guest Aubrey, because again,

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number one, just genuinely one of the coolest people in the planet and we always

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just, I think we all rally around you.

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Your energy and I believe you had that stuff in you before, but you were hiding.

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Over trying to, let's be honest, be a female in the coding world is a lot.

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Okay.

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I worked in the valley.

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It's a lot.

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Right.

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And the females always have to work harder and show out more.

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Yes.

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And sort of fight all of the blockades and things like that.

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So I can see where your anxiety would come from.

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I can see where your comparison syndrome would come from.

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And so in a way, the real Aubrey was there and it took the accident and the

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limitations to then allow you to get out.

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Right.

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A lot of times, for all creatives involved, you find some of your

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best work in the limitations.

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So don't get freaked out when you get stuck with a limitation, like not

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having your whole studio today, Doc, and having to do this weird thing that

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we're doing that seeming to work now.

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So you will find your creativity in your limitations, and I hope you

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both can get a takeaway from that.

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Do you have an advice or something that you would like

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to pass on to our listeners?

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Well, let's see advice, I would say, well, how about I tell you a story?

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Yeah.

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Alright.

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Love stories.

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I.

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I had made it like, made it, like I was word like teaching and doing everything

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I could to help minorities and LGBTQ, everybody with coding, learn how to

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code and basically changed their life.

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I even got invited to the white house under Obama, so to attend

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a tech and innovation summit, I'm like, Check that out.

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See, I was like making it right.

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Yeah.

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And it was hilarious because about that time I was interviewing for

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jobs and it's kind of awesome.

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You go in the white house and interviewing for jobs.

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Yep.

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It, it helps things, but I'm like, But then after I have my accident, I'm like,

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wait, what, what, what is gonna happen?

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What, whoa, who am I like Doc?

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Like you were saying, like hone in, like when you're limited to what you have.

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Well, thankfully I have the camera, my microphone, but

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I'm like, I love my, oops.

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I should say this guitars.

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But my hand like this one's good.

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This one not.

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It's like, what is it went from over 80 words, minute to 20, if I'm lucky.

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Like, so, and I use left to play my chords.

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I'm like, that's a bit of a problem.

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But like Doc said, it's a constraint or whatever.

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Yeah.

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Limitation, limitation.

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Yeah.

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Constraint.

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Yeah.

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Limitation.

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Thank you.

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So it's like, I can't do what I normally would or how I usually used

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to, I have to work with what I got.

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And I did a lot of writing before.

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Well now I can't type.

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But I can talk, but, but I sound awful.

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What?

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All right, Aubs, you gotta figure it out.

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What?

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Well, gotta figure it out.

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So, so one.

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I'm still working on that.

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So like, Jay I've already even said, like, how do you even do it?

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Like embrace it.

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I'm like, I wish I had a very succinct answer for you.

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I don't.

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I'm like, this is Aubrey and people say, oh, 2.0?

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No.

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When I lost weight, that was Aubrey 2.0, this is Aubrey 3.0.

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Nice.

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Nice, nice.

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So you can release Aubry 4.0, when we release each 4.0, we can have like,

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we'll all level up

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release at the same time.

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I like what you just said because I think a lot of people

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will ask that question of you.

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How do you embrace?

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Like, cuz I always tell people embrace the suck.

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Right?

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You've you've been in my class.

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I say embrace the suck all the time.

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That's a military thing.

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Yeah.

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You don't need a time or a space or an accident or anything to just make

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the executive decision to embrace and accept what you are and where you are,

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who you are now know that with any practice you can change, if you wish.

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Or you can work with what you got.

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So you don't need permission to do that.

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Just do it, right?

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Like, Hey, I accept me for who I am.

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You can do that today.

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Walk into the bathroom, look yourself in the mirror and

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say, I accept me for who I am.

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I embrace me for who I am.

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I am going to work to make myself better, but I'm accepting

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one that I got right now.

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Yeah.

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And then my other line, you know me say, I am a Creator and say it out loud.

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Don't just do it in your head because it allows you to not freak out about

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being on camera, having the mics and stuff, do what they want to do.

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Things like that.

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So, yeah, I definitely still say, I say my affirmations to myself out

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loud in the mirror, and it's not even the kind you guys learn in church.

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Like I just make up my own, right?

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Because it's a reminder to me.

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That if I stop doing what I'm doing, I'm gonna disappoint

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all the people in The Flow.

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Yeah.

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All of the people that are part of the Ecamm community and things like that.

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Yes.

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As well as disappoint myself.

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So I just accept it for what it is, right.

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You just gotta do what you gotta do.

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So I appreciate that, Aubs.

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You are absolutely freaking remarkable.

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I love when you pop into the chat, it's like the whole chat lights up

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and all of a sudden, everybody goes, Hey Aubs, like right down the list.

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Because I think the effect that you have on me, I think you have

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on the majority of the community.

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You can always keep that in your back pocket for when you're having

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one of those, um, you know, insert your favorite, bad word here days.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I just go like this.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Exactly.

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My favorite button

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I love it.

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I think it totally makes me, and this, this expression gets like a bad rap

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because I think that it again plays into sort of that burnout culture.

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And, and I do think that.

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There's a time and a place for it, but hearing what you said reminded

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me of being a kid and hearing my dad say, you know, well, if you can't walk,

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you crawl, you know, and it's, and I know that that expression has a bad

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rap, but I think that what you said in that is really the embodiment of that.

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I can't type anymore.

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I can't get the content out the way that I used to be able to do it.

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And so I needed to switch to this different medium that maybe was scarier.

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Maybe you don't like how you look or your voice or whatever else,

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but it accomplishes the goal.

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So, you know, you might be sitting there and, and thinking to yourself,

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like, I, you know, I've always been a writer, I can't do video

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or I've always been a podcaster.

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I can't add video content into it.

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If it gets you to the solution in a better way, or it makes your workflow

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easier, or it pushes you outside your comfort zone to be able to reach

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people better, it may be crawling.

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And maybe it's not as much fun as just walking, but it might get you there,

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you know, in a better way, or it might get you there in a different way or

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teach you a different thing, or it might be the only way to get there.

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And so I, I think it's hugely important

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. I think the embodiment of

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Yeah.

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People that live in the comfort zone, you're never getting a

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chance to experience growth or be better or be different.

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And it's really weird because in one voice, you tell yourself

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to accept yourself for who you are, but it's still okay to do

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that and still want to be better.

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But realizing that being better requires work.

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And I think a lot of people like to draw these weird lines in the sand.

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They're like, oh, I am what I am.

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And that's just the way it is.

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That sentence is correct.

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But that still doesn't mean you can't make yourself better for

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yourself, even if for nobody else.

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Yeah.

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And I think a lot of people like to take that and use that as the

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line, but they're using that line to be like in the comfort zone.

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So it's like, I got what I got.

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Well, whaddya got?

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Oh, I got a hundred bucks.

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A hundred bucks.

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Something's awesome.

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Yeah, man.

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I'm winning.

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I go, but what if that was a hundred million?

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You still good?

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No.

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Yeah.

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So it's okay to try to, and if we are fine with that conversation, when it comes

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to money or things or materials, we do really bad at doing that for ourselves.

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And I think it's something that I like to strive to get people to work towards.

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And I know you do the same, Aubrey.

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Which is why I still love your poster.

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People at home, you can't see her poster.

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Behind her head it says, don't be so hard in yourself.

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And I absolutely love that poster.

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And sometimes when Aubrey gets hard on herself, our whole crew

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goes, ah, look at the poster.

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And she goes, yeah, you guys are right.

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I need a poster like that.

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I definitely, and it's funny cuz I, I totally preach it to other people, which

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I think is important for everyone to hear, you know, the people who you think

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are on top of it, or you think are really super organized or have it all together.

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They also have bad days.

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They also have times where everything goes wrong, or someone leaves a comment

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that makes them feel little or all of the stuff that happens or they

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thought that they could do it better.

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They were being a perfectionist about it.

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The important part about perseverance, which it was what I titled today's

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episode is really about pushing through that noise and figuring out, you know,

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who you want to be and what you wanna accomplish and what it takes to get there.

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And it might be that you are finding an easier path to save yourself time because,

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you know, because work life balance is super important to you, or it might be

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that it's a much harder path, but you need to get there because that's how you

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need to live or how you need to work or how you wanna be able to share something

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that's important to other people.

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So, you know, your stumbling blocks, Aubrey, are helping

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other people overcome theirs.

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So it doesn't make it easy for you, but that's part of being the leader in a

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voice for others that are also struggling.

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It makes a huge difference.

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Your not showing up matters.

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Like it matters a lot.

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So it forces us all to think through: what is your mission?

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What are you like?

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What are you showing up for?

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That's my favorite.

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And you know, the best part is Aubrey delivers it with a smile

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on her face and the best freaking expressions in the planet.

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So I always crack up cuz Aubrey has funny facial expressions, which is so cool.

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Like that's part of you, that's your energy, right?

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That's what I do.

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Yeah.

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I'm still, I'm still jealous about this whole peach milkshake thing you

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be bringing, you know, to the parties sometimes, cuz we don't live in

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Georgia, so I can't get the peach milk.

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Oh my God.

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See, she has one.

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She always has the peach mikshake.

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I'm like, I can't get one of those.

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I'm coming to Georgia.

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Yeah, we need a Georgia road trip.

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We need Ecamm Georgia.

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See Aubrey and Michelle, the rest of the crew.

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So man, Aubrey, thanks for being our first guest.

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Absolutely amazing.

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I think it was kind of perfect that we had virtually every tech challenge

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on location with Aubrey as a guest, because had we just given up this

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episode would've been useless.

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It would've made no sense whatsoever.

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Oh my goodness.

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Did you think about that?

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And it's episode seven.

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So we have to do it.

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We're committed.

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And we're talking, we're leading into Leap, which, Aubrey, you were so kind.

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And I wanna share this story out loud because I think again, it's super

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important for everyone to hear this.

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Aubrey emailed me.

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And the email was something to the extent of, I know I'm way

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too late to be a Leap speaker.

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I know I cannot all be involved with Leap Into Podcasting this year, but

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I just wanted to reach out and say that I have this cool story to share.

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I wanna share my story with people.

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And it wasn't too late because we're doing these interviews leading up to Leap.

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We would certainly be bundling this up and sharing it with all the Leap attendees.

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So it, I think we just tell ourselves like, oh, I can't

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reach out to that person.

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They're already done that thing or they like, my I'm not gonna bring value.

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They've already got it together.

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Who wants to listen to me?

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Yeah.

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So I'm so thankful that you did that because I think your story is

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incredibly important for people to hear.

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I'm so excited that we'll be able to share it with everyone at Leap.

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And I'm thrilled that you're able to join us today.

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Aubrey, you've never said who wants to listen to me?

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Have you?

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What?

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Snitching.

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What happens in the gold group stays in the gold group.

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Love it.

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I'm happy you shared that, Kates, cause I do think a lot of times when you talk to

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people and like, how did you do so and so?

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I just asked.

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Oh.

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There's really, and I'm the person that always like, again, I say

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this, I think every episode or every video, I overthink it to death.

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I am never the person that asks, but you know what?

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I say yes to almost everything.

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So I'm a great mark to ask.

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So super funny.

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Definitely ask.

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You would figure that because you always get these emails, you would know that

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people send these emails is okay, but it is definitely different when you do it.

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Right.

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That's super funny.

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I mean, you know, I think it, it builds good relationships.

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It does.

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It does.

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Yeah.

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Even like when I got Uncle Ray to come on the show, I was like,

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I can't believe I'm emailing.

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I'm typing the email.

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I can't believe I'm just gonna cold email.

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I'm gonna cold email them.

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Hey, uh, yeah.

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So I just do this show and I would want people to hear about copywriting.

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I think storytelling's coming big for content Creator, creators, podcasters,

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and that, and I would just love to have you on, because I love your books.

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Matter of fact, every time I get a copy of your book, I give it away.

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I just gave my last copy away to my boss, which was true.

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And then he's like, yeah, I'll come on your show and I watch your show.

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I'm like, wait a minute, wait, what?

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And he is like, yeah, I watch a show all the time.

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I'm like, oh my God, it's such a crazy experience.

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So you never freaking know, but you won't know if you don't ask.

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So yeah.

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And I talked to Doc about like two months ago, I think.

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Yeah.

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And I'm so proud of you, Aubs.

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And I was like, he's gonna kick my rear.

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Yeah.

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I try to scare her, but I'm scared of her.

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Actually, guys, I do wanna talk to you about something because as we did have

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this special episode and we did run into some challenges, I wanted to ask

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now that we're all out here creating stuff and we're doing content and a

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lot of times we're gonna be in places like now when you're on your location,

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not in your studio, dealing with hotel, internet, or conference internet.

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Have you ever had what I like to call a stream emergency?

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Well, let me tell you a little story about stream emergency

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and Leap Into Live Streaming.

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Last year, we're doing our Leap conference at the Ecamm office and in

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the middle of the entire show, like day two, the internet provider for the

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city that Ecamm headquarters exists in decided that'll be a good day to

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not provide internet, not show up.

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I'm like, Hey, you got like one job fam, you provide internet.

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It says it in the title.

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They decided, nah, not today.

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We don't care about Ecamm's conference.

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Here's what is funny.

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We did not know that the internet and the town dropped because

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nothing happened at the conference.

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And you're like, wait, Doc, what kind of like freaking magic is that?

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I know your family's from Haiti, but what kind of voodoo is that?

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Well, it turns out that I had just installed Speedify on my computer

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and I had Speedify on my phone and in the process of interviewing

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the people from Speedify, I had set my computer up, had it running.

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We were just talking in the background.

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We were doing like a meeting to see what we were gonna talk about

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for the Speedify panel for Leap.

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And so luckily I had Speedify all set up and I had my iPhone

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set up as the backup connection.

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Mm-hmm

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when the connection died.

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I would've had a stream emergency, but without my even

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knowing my phone kicked in.

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And we went through the whole stream and everything was fine.

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Really funny that night when the stream was over, we all went back.

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I go to my hotel and then I decided, okay, now I can watch the Manchester

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United game because I'm not working.

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So I open up my phone and AT&T goes, you're outta data.

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How the heck did I use all of the data?

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And I figured out that my phone, my iPhone 13 Pro Max was the connection

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for an entire live conference.

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Thanks to Speedify.

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Make sure you go to speedify.com and download Speedify.

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You can also just go to the apple store on your Mac, you know, open the app.

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Type in Speedify, it is hands down one of the coolest things.

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And besides just saving you in a stream emergency, it's a full VPN.

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So you can have secure connections.

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Yeah.

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If you're making banking transactions or, you know, you want to do things

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where you just don't have any drama.

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So thanks to Speedify for sponsoring this episode of The Flow and know that my

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stream emergency is an actual true story.

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So you can go check out the replays.

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It was so funny and we didn't even know until it was over.

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Yeah.

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That, and that's the kind of stream emergency you really wanna deal with.

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Correct.

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Are the ones where that's, where it just solves itself because you've preplanned

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and partnered with the right people.

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I really can't speak highly enough about it as a tool.

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It's a lifesaver.

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It's a lifesaver.

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It's the number one thing that goes wrong.

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Yep.

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Is internet connectivity.

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So I think just having it as an extra and they have a great deal for

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everyone at that attends the event.

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So if you're signed up, you'll be covered.

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We'll release that promo code during the event.

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If you're not signed up, it's a really good reason to sign up for free.

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You could be, you could be doing your trial now.

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And I think you will end right about the time we start the conference,

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cuz there's a 14 day free trial.

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Yeah.

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Do not tell them.

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I said this in the sponsor read, but it's way too cheap for what it actually does.

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They should probably like double or triple the price.

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But don't tell 'em don't yeah.

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Don't yeah.

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Get in now, get in now, before they, somebody listens to me for once.

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It's so funny that this was like, we were like, okay, we're gonna do, we're

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gonna start doing some more sponsor reads so that we can show you what

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a sponsor read sounds like and how the process goes within the video.

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And it's hilarious because that is actually a completely true story.

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So for us, we're like, we don't even need copy from you, Speedify.

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We've got this because we lived this.

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Yeah, well that, and when I was in San Diego for Social Media Marketing World,

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I also needed to use Speedify because the connection in the hotel was horrendous.

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Yeah.

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Like really horrendous.

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It bonds together a bunch of different sources.

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Correct.

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So, you know, it's great if you're on a team and you have, you know, we had

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a hotspot, we had the wifi that was at the hotel and then we have our phones.

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So between few of us and the few different sources you're able to create

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a pretty powerful internet connection.

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Absolutely.

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You know, what's funny is my sister-in-law went to Italy for the world coffee

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conference and I was like, can I just go you tech person, do you need a translator?

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She's like, you speak Italian?

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I speak Japanese.

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Does that count?

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Anyway, I couldn't go with her, unfortunately.

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But she said I need a VPN for when I travel.

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And I said, you already have one.

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And she goes, no, I only downloaded that Speedify thing.

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I go, yeah, it's a VPN, too.

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Done.

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And she's like, wait, what, how do you install it?

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I go, it's already installed.

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You're good.

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Just click the Speedify button first.

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You're already VPN.

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And she was like, are you sure?

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Like so nervous that it wasn't the same thing and they are.

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So even me as a nerd for my family, I install it on everyone's phone.

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And I tell them before you decide to pay bills or do things on your

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phone hit the Speedify button first.

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Yeah.

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So you have an extra layer of security, so it's quite amazing for what it is.

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You can even sign up for like family plans and things like that.

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I can't tell you enough.

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And I just like having them as a sponsor.

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And the cool part is I did that so good you didn't even know we

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were breaking into a sponsor read until I had to legally tell you.

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Well, thank you to Speedify for saving the day.

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Thank you to Aubrey for hanging out with us today.

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Thanks to all of our live studio audience and all of our listeners listening

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at home and every single one of you, we expect to see you at Leap into

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Podcasting at the end of this month.

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I can't wait.

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My favorite part about Leap is I get to be in headquarters.

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So I get to hang out with Ken and Glen in real space.

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Yeah.

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And they're way funnier than you think cause they're a lot of fun.

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So I can't wait to go there.

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Guys.

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If you are listening to this at home, or if you're in live studio

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audience, make sure you jump over to the apple iTunes store.

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Leave us a review if you like what's going on.

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Of course, if you have questions or something you want us to talk

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about, you can reach us at flow Ecamm dot com and make sure you hit the

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subscribe button inside the podcasting.

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It's now called follow inside of subscribe.

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I don't care what your podcast app says.

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Follow us, just click it.

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Because what that will do is on Tuesdays, when we're releasing an

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episode, you'll already get it.

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But you know, if you're the cool kids, you're just at the live taping.

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Because right when I say the part of bye, we open up to Q and A.

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So if you're building a show and you wanna get your questions answered

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live, come to the live tapings.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Even from the hotel in the middle of Cleveland.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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we're here.

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We got you.

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And we don't know the answer.

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We'll send you to Aubrey.

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If you're nervous, we'll give you contact info to Aubrey.

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So she'll yell at you about not being nervous and yeah.

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And make sure you check out the Morning Minutes Motivation-ish.

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I didn't say that right.

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How do you say it, Aubrey?

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I forgot.

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Morning, motivational minute-ish.

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Morning motivational.

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You gotta do the ish with the ish with the head tilt.

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Yes.

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You gotta do the head tilt.

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That is very important.

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The head tilt is cool.

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This, I was like, yes.

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Queen you gotta throw the hand up.

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Yeah.

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it's like trademark.

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Come on.

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Exactly.

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The trademark.

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Exactly.

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Aubs, you are a rockstar.

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Thank you so much.

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I can't say enough about like how happy I am that you, of all people got to be

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our first and now I gotta tell Jared Spink that he didn't make the list.

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Cause I, I told him that I kind wanted him to be the first one.

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Oh, too bad.

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I'll blame Katie.

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I was like Katie vetoed it, man.

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We're gonna get you a number one Jersey.

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So you can rock while you ride your golf cart.

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Yeah, there we go.

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I'm like my golf cart's kinda awesome.

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It is awesome.

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Y'all gonna come.

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Yes.

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Thank you people listening at home.

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Make sure you go over to iTunes and get with The Flow.

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Mahalo everyone.