The Flow: Episode 112 - Say Goodbye to Editing: The One-Take Revolution

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Music.

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Aloha, Flowriders, and welcome to another edition of The Flow.

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I am your co-host, Doc Rock, along with my awesome co-host. Hey, everyone. It's Katie.

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Hey, I nailed that point the right direction. You did. You did.

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I was impressed. I was impressed. Thank you, Stephanie.

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All right, Katie, what are we talking about today? I'm really excited about

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this one because we've been talking about this topic for a really long time in all aspects of Ecamm.

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And we recently just had Alec Johnson, the one and only, come on and do an entire

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workshop about this topic.

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So if this resonates with you today, you can dive even deeper into the replay

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and check out all of Alec's amazing content.

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We're talking about no more editing. And we're talking about what we've been

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calling the one-take revolution.

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I'm calling, I'm, by we, I mean me, I'm forcing all of us to call it the one-take

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revolution. But we're saying goodbye to editing today because it's a big deal.

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So I found some stats, all right, and get ready for this. It's both like higher

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than I think and also lower than I think.

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But 41% of podcasters out there say that post-production work and all of the

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editing is the most time-consuming part of their workflow and is stopping them

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from creating content more regularly.

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So let's talk about not editing anymore. Let's talk about it. I like this.

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The biggest thing I think when it comes to the not editing part for me is getting

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the people who don't really have, this is going to sound super mean, it's not mean.

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If you don't have editing skill, then don't try it.

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You can learn it, but don't learn it on the thing that you need to be consistent at. Okay.

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So publishing episodes is the thing you need to be consistent at.

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That is not the time to try to learn how to edit.

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So especially let's give ourselves a number.

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Your first 25 episodes, just don't even edit them.

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If you're just starting out, you're brand new, you've been doing this or wanting

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to put this or keep putting it off because the one thing that's scaring you is the edit.

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Or you got like three episodes in and the edit is starting to derail you because

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it's taking you eight hours to edit a one hour podcast.

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This is where you let go of the editing and just keep doing the podcast.

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And then you practice editing on something else.

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So then you can get down. But here's what's cool.

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With Ecamm, you can even make the editing part lighter, which is,

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I guess, what we're getting into today. Because we talked about this at MaxDoc.

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And every time we bring it up at a show, people are like, wait, what?

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Really? And we're like, yeah, man, it's a thing. You can do it.

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You can do it. It is a thing. It is a thing. All right, but I want to,

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before we dive too deep into this, I did want to highlight a really cool new

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thing that we are doing here at The Flow and just generally at Ecamm.

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So if you swing over to ecamm.tv slash podcast queues, podcast QS.

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All right. We in our emails, whether you sign up for our main Ecamm newsletter

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or whether you sign up for the Flow newsletter, we want to know what those challenges are.

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So as we just said, at least 41% of you are saying that editing is a big deal

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for you, which is why we're doing this episode.

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But if there's another thing that's really got you, or if you want us to talk

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even more about editing, swing it over to this link, drop that in.

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You can upvote and downvote other people's things that they're dropping in that

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are their biggest challenges.

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Maybe don't be too mean with the downvoting, but upvote ones that you think

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are good topics for us to cover.

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We really want to know what matters to you so that we can create better episodes

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for you. So definitely swing on over there while we're chatting through today's episode.

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If you're listening, it is ecamm.tv slash podcast QS. That will take you over there.

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And then obviously at any time you can sign up for our newsletter,

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flow.ecam.com is where you can grab that.

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But yeah, we would love to hear what your challenges are.

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But yeah, let's dive in. It is...

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I think you're right. It's funny that it's a big topic and people really seem to struggle with this.

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But you are right, Doc, that every time we mention what our workflow is,

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people are like, whoa, how are you doing that? And is it actually working?

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And what are some of the details of what it is?

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So I think it really starts with mindset,

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which we've been talking a lot about even personally, but it's this idea of

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taking away the perfectionism because it doesn't mean that you're more professional, right?

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It's like being a perfectionist about it and getting it perfect doesn't mean

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that you are the most professional person in the room.

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That's not what matters. But I think that's what's in a lot of our heads.

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Oh, 100%. Okay. So if you were to walk into the room, I'll give two crazy examples.

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One, going to be a little bit harder for you to prove unless you go look for it.

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But if you were to walk into a room and standing in front of the room was a

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professor, Albert Einstein, Herr Einstein, as they would call him,

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and you would watch him do his speech.

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He lost train of thought, famously lost train of thought all the time,

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switched directions all the time, and was an ombudsman.

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Like, he was an um guy because his brain was faster than his mouth.

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Yep. I don't think any of us can stand there and act like we're smarter than

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AE himself. I'm just saying.

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Like, notably one of the most famous genii to ever run the face of the earth.

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The other thing that I would say is I just got finished watching a bunch of

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sports stuff over this last couple of times, because a lot of stuff is happening in sports right now.

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And if you watch them sit at a table and do the live pregame,

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postgame, or even, you know, if you watch CNN or ESPN or when somebody's in

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and they're doing the panel where everyone's talking and.

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Even the best presenters are going to stop, fix what they say,

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repeat things, make adjustments.

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This just got in. They read it off the paper.

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It's not as polished as you think, but you're not paying attention to that because

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you're focused on what they're talking about.

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Whether it's the epic run that the Red Sox are on or Manchester United season

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starting in two weeks or Lewis Hamilton having a struggle at Ferrari.

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No matter which one I'm watching, those guys are just flowing.

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No pun intended. No pun intended.

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The ladies and the dudes that are doing these shows, they're just flowing.

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They're not like, oh, wait, cut.

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You can't do that. You're standing in the middle of a pit lane with a couple

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billion dollars worth of cars.

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You can't go, wait, cut. Let me say that again. You just re-repeat it.

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You know, here we are this week at Silverstone. Oh, sorry.

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It's not Silverstone. That was last week. Oh, my God. That race was crazy.

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It rained the entire time. Here we are at Spa, and we're going to go check out the Ferrari Garage.

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You watch this every day, and you don't have any problem with it.

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If anything, you chuckle when they say something dumb.

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Why is everybody with no budget and no team and no skills and no experience trying to be perfect?

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That's my question. Especially in podcasting. So the one thing I really want

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to stress to people, because I think it's, particularly in the world of video, it makes it...

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I think we have a different preconceived notion than what we should, right?

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Because when we think about podcasting specifically, it is a deeply personal medium, right?

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So whether you're doing this in video or audio, you are going into people's

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spaces. In many cases, you're right in someone's ear.

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They're taking you with you on a journey.

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It is really, really deeply personal.

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And so the production of it, like you need to be keeping that in mind.

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It's very different than a tutorial video, than, you know, than TV,

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than all of these other different mediums that even, even if you're doing it

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as a video, it's not the same as those final outputs. It's meant to be really personal.

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It's meant to be really conversational.

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You know, it's meant to pull in a community and a niche of people, right?

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So in the same way that all those sports examples you were just giving,

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the people that would listen to any of that content, any podcast that was on

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any of those topics that you just gave, the people that are going to be listening

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to it are already, to some extent, passionate about that topic.

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So they're there with you. They're going to be aggressively agreeing or disagreeing with you.

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They want to be part of that conversation. There's a reason why they're listening

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to it. They have some level of interest in it, right?

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So it is really different than when you're getting up and giving a presentation

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in front of the board or you're, you know, you're doing these kinds of things

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that we feel like we need to put our professional hats on for.

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Podcasting is inherently not professional. It's inherently personal.

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And so I think already we can just forgive ourselves for all of that.

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Like if you need to still hang on to some of the perfectionism,

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keep it for the boardroom or these other moments where like you need to be very professional.

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The podcasting space is a space where you really should be trying to be yourself

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and leaning into the topic, even if it's an incredibly important topic that has a level of...

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Where you need to be highly accurate or there's something that needs to be as

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professional, quote unquote, as possible.

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I just think really what we all need to be thinking about is our audience and

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building those connection points.

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And that's why something like recording it live or recording it in this one

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take live to tape format really helps, especially if you do it live like we

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do, because it really helps you to embrace that level of connection.

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So you are being unapologetically yourself and real and a person in front of,

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people who are there to get the content from you and spend time with you and

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be part of your community.

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So you're putting yourself in front of those people.

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And I do think it really does make a very big difference.

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And I do think, I've said this a bunch, but I think that the lines between a

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live stream show and a podcast and all these different mediums are really blurring because in the end,

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it's really just about creating content that's valuable for your community.

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And so doing that in a live format, I do think simplifies everything and also

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just gets you out of your head.

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Like it does force you into a mindset that I think is a healthier place to be

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for a lot of people because they don't want to polish you.

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Oh, you just set up something big in my brain just now yes all right so.

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Oh this is crazy okay a podcast luis don't even edit out the part where i have

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to formulate that thought because it's a it's a crazy thought it hit me like

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a ton of bricks i'm not trying to build tension but no okay so you mentioned

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the part about it's not like a tutorial video,

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Okay. And then so you think of some things in your general life,

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your general practice, the reason why you know that you like a particular thing in life, right?

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So I'll pick, you know, for you, it could be wine.

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Your thing that you like about wine did not come from you went to wine one-on-one

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course, a sommelier at University Chateau-Prom-de-Ponts.

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You had a wine with your grandpa or your grandma one day, don't tell mom,

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check this out. This is good.

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When you have your dinner, you eat this. Oh, make sure you put it in a glass like this.

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Make sure, you know, you check out these various varieties.

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These go good with fish. These go good with steak. And then you start hanging out with your friends.

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You know, especially in a culture that has a little bit of a French background,

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it is actually introduced to you earlier than we do because,

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well, Protestants, I'll leave that alone.

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And then you just go, and later when you become an adult, you have an affinity

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for something that actually connects a lot of people.

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When they got in, your affinity from it did not come from sitting in a classroom

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structural environment.

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Your affinity for it came from conversations, right?

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The best lessons learned in life come from general conversations.

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So even if your goal is to talk about podcasting, we're not sitting here going,

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step one, write that down. It's going to be on the quiz.

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We're having a conversation about overcoming perfectionism in podcasting.

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The lessons are just built in. It's not that it's a formulated university style,

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you know, APA structured lecture.

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And most of the things that people like and love, they build their affinities

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from general conversations.

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So even if your goal is to be teaching...

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You teach it by let's have a conversation today about getting rid of post-production

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by approaching perfectionism from a different standpoint.

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We're just two homies having to rap.

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That's what it is. And if you can wrap your head around that's the format for

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podcasting and not, you know, standing there like Father Guido Sarducci, then you're good.

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You're like absolutely good. Oh, my God. That's, wow.

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Okay, cool. No, I think I made that sound like I had it in my head. We blew Doc's mind.

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I think it makes sense. I think it was a moment for me.

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So we've been recording more tutorial videos for Ecamm, which is not at all my background.

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Like as many of you know, video in general is not my background.

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And trying to do recorded step-by-step tutorial videos that need to just be

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very to the point, immediately helpful.

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People don't have a ton of patience when they are watching a step-by-step tutorial video.

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They just want the answer so that they can keep going. They have a block.

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They need to know how to do it. They want to keep going.

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Whereas a podcast, people are intentionally listening to it,

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no matter what the length is of it.

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It could be a two-minute show. It could be a two-hour show.

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But people are intentionally listening to it for an experience.

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So they can decide how long they want to be there or not want to be there.

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They can split it up into listening over however long, they can pause,

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they can fast forward, et cetera.

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It's a really different experience. So it really hit me as I was recording these tutorial videos that.

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Editing in a tutorial video makes a ton of sense because you want to be as brief as possible.

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You want it to flow like in a particular way. You want to make sure that the

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steps make sense in the way that you're explaining them.

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But that is not, it is a completely different experience and format from a podcast,

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which really is all about creating an experience.

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And the people that are listening or watching have full control over how they

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want to receive that experience and how they want to change it.

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So I, unsurprisingly, Doc got me excited about a show called Morbid,

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which is like a true crime podcast.

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It's two women that live in my area. So it's like New England lady time for

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me. And I just love everything about it.

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And sometimes they will kick off their show about whatever their topic is,

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whatever true crime killer or whatever they're talking about.

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Before they kick that off, they have like banter, right?

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They're talking at the beginning of the episode. and sometimes the banter is

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like super brief and sometimes they're like on some kind of roll about something and they go off.

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And there are points where in certain episodes, I'm like, eh,

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I'm not really in the banter mode and I'll just fast forward to the beginning of the episode.

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And then there are times where I love the banter and that's exactly what I'm

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looking for in the episode and that's fine.

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At no point am I like, oh, I'm not gonna listen to this show anymore because

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every third episode they talk for 15 minutes about what's going on in their lives.

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But I think as a podcaster, there are moments where I'm like,

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oh, am I bantering too much at the beginning of this episode?

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Is that going to cheese people off?

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Do I need to edit that out? Do I need to have more of a – we overthink a lot

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of this stuff where I think if we're focused on –,

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The overall experience, what kind of expectation we're setting up and what people

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are getting out of it. I think that's what really matters.

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So it is really important to focus on that.

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Go ahead. So I have a question for you. First of all, let me cover Marianne's comment.

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Marianne said, thank you for saying like no matter how long it is,

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Katie, like she thought podcasts had to be an hour or so.

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No, they don't. I had a buddy of mine, Sam, who had a podcast.

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And this is when iPhones first started getting apps. So like iPhone 2,

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3 area. And he had a podcast that he put out every single day.

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That was about three minutes long.

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He always tried to nail three minutes. Sometimes it'd be like five.

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And then we would laugh because he would go over three because he told everybody

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it was going to be like an app in three minutes. It was called App A Day.

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It was literally like in the top five of podcasts.

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Because of course, at that time, apps were so brand new.

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Everybody was trying to figure out, you know, sort of what to get and what to download.

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Okay, so let me ask this question to you and anybody in the audience who's paying

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attention. Did you ever have a favorite teacher who was absolutely scatterbrained,

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like who forever went off the wrong end or whatever?

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And I will tell you, maybe because I'm, you know, ADD reflecting,

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those were always my favorite teachers.

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The ones that didn't go down the outline and would start talking about the randomest

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things or tell you about their life or get in. And they became more like friends.

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Right. But when you had the teacher that put the outline out and went straight

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down the outline, I'm like, what are you teaching me? I can read an outline.

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Hand me a paper and tell me to go to the library and I'm good.

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If you're going to regurgitate straight line crap, I would probably drop your

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class. That's just not there.

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I fell in love with or spend the most times with my teachers who...

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Sort of treated us like they were in a relationship with us,

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right? And I know that sounds weird to say because Catholic school, but not like that.

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They were trying to be both a mentor and a friend and, you know,

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came at you from a level of understanding you, but you also understood them, right?

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These are the teachers that will come and sit with us at the lunch table and

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go deeper on a topic because class only allotted for an hour,

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45 minutes if If you're really, you know,

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getting into the beginning and the end, they would basically come to the table

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and sit down and be like, did you guys understand what we were talking about?

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And I'm like, yeah, I kind of think so. Those little circles on Jupiter are actually storms.

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Yeah, there's storms. And, you know, contrary to people's popular belief,

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there's water in some shape or form in just about every planet.

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And we're like, oh, wait a minute. Hold up. Sit down. But how come there's no

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life? Then it becomes a whole conversation. that's not in the damn book.

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And you know what we all did? We excelled in science class because Mr.

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Ayat would come and kick it with us at the table.

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Yeah. And then ask us questions about, I saw you like looking at Terry in class

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all day. What's going on there? What are you talking about?

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If you watch Mr. Carter, any of the TV shows where the teacher is the best,

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right? Michelle Pfeiffer or Mr.

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Carter was the basketball one. Mr. Feeney, Boy Meets World.

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Mr. Feeney. Yeah. Those teachers are like homies. Yeah. So why,

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you know this from watching TV, you know this from real life.

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Why are you sitting behind your camera trying to be, again, Professor Puffin Stuffs?

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Mr. Cooper, hanging with Mr. Cooper. Who's that?

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Was that Paul? Oh my God. I love it.

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So this is actually great because so this is the this is the secret that many

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of you that who are using Ecamm may already know, but maybe you aren't thinking this way.

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So as you're thinking through your show, right, so obviously we're all doing

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planning for all of our podcast episodes to some extent.

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Maybe, you know, maybe it's a little bit more off the cuff for you.

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Maybe you are a super planner and you have everything all laid out.

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The important thing to realize is once you've finished your plan for your show...

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Simplify it down to a couple of like key points that you want to get out by

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the end of the episode, two or three, like what are the things that you need to drive home?

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Build some bullet points around that. Do not overdo your bullet points.

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Build out some easy bullet points and then use Ecamm to give yourself some visual

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cues as you are working through your scenes. This is literally the power of Ecamm.

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This is why this tool is so much more powerful than other tools.

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Build it out so that as you're looking at literally at Ecamm and you are flowing

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through your show, so you're going through it, you remember what it was you're

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supposed to talk about. You don't even need the bullets in front of you if you do this.

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Like, this is how I do presentations. This is how we do almost everything that we do.

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It's like, you know, I know, so for today's episode, I'm not even driving the

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show, but Luis is, I know that we wanted to let you know about our new form

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that you can fill out and leave your podcasting challenges and the things that

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you want us to talk about.

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I knew that we wanted to talk about that, right? So when we were building the

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scenes, we added a scene in that had that ready to go.

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And so we knew that when we change over to that scene, oh, right,

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we were going to talk about this.

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I don't need the bullet points for that because I know what I wanted to talk about.

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And it's an immediate reminder just by seeing it there on the screen.

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And it becomes out much more friendly and casual.

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And I'm checking the box of what I needed to get out as far as information to

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everyone, but I didn't have to have a full script to do it.

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And I didn't need to have even a ton of bullet points on the screen.

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I just needed the visual reminder.

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And so this is, you know, if you're the kind of person who's a big planner and

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you've always done things with a script, this is a really freeing thing to do

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is just having, and it could be like a little gif.

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It could be, you know, a text thing that flies in.

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Like you can make it as fun or as silly or as ridiculous as you want or not,

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or as buttoned up and polished as you want.

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But having a little visual cue and a reminder on the screen,

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even if it's the question you want to ask and the next scene has the question,

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then you literally can read your bullet point and it's visual to your whole audience.

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But it does help you make sure that you get out the episode that you want to

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get out while still opening up time,

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as Doc said, for your community to ask questions and give you talking points

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throughout the episode and for it to be a two-way conversation instead of a one-way conversation.

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So I think it's a little thing, but it goes a really long way just being able

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to use graphics and overlays in a way that helps you with your content.

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Yes. You want to be more professional? Look at Stephen Colbert. He has a.

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This little stack of cards, he will be talking to the guests and be like,

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so Katie, I heard that you are from Canada. Is that correct?

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Right? Like you see that all the time. And then sometimes when it gets deep,

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he'll take the cards, pick any of your favorite talk show hosts,

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don't take the cards and don't fling it because they found a nugget that they can just run with.

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And on purpose, they fling the cards to let you know that we're going to get

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intimate with this guest for a second, right?

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But this is behind the scenes of my average video. I know you can't read that.

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I can't read it, trust you me.

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Katie has seen my handwriting before, but it's literally just my notes, right?

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I talked about doing a brain dump, setting your priorities, and then time boxing.

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And then the rest of the things are like, you know, this came up and was invented

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by Harvard Business Review.

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We're doing visual multitasking and systematic are some

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of the things that you can do in order to get like these were legit

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just my notes and this is where i this is

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the exact page where i devised block it lock

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it and rock it as my sort of like you know get it done whenever you're struggling

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type of situation and it's literally that like i i legit just have a a5 notebook

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on the desk and a fountain pen look people in video and then literally that's it That's my notes.

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And in the video, sometimes people will see me here. Let me check my notes.

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I'll actually say that in the video.

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I'm not trying to fake the funk or the nasty dunk.

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I'm a person of a certain vintage. I am not expected to have the memory that

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you think that you're trying to invent.

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And most of you guys are of a certain vintages, too. And I guarantee you in

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the last three days, if you haven't done so, you're going to do it today.

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You're going to walk into the kitchen.

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Coffee cup in your hand. What the hell did I come in here for?

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Coffee cup e-cam coffee cup in your hand walk in the kitchen what I came in

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here for or you'd be like hey hon have you seen my glasses hey hon.

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Every single one of you. So why? Why are you trying to come up on the TV and

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be something that you just ain't? It's just not a thing.

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It doesn't exist anywhere in reality. It just doesn't.

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And I'm willing to bet, you mentioned this real quick and then we'll tap back in.

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You mentioned about the people, when you're looking to find an answer to a question,

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you go and you go sort tutorials.

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The one that gives you the answer will not

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be the one that goes step one wipe

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your nose step two put on your shirt step three

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tie your buttons but remember always sometimes never only put the first one

00:26:43.410 --> 00:26:46.350

and then walk out you're not going to like that one you're going to watch the

00:26:46.350 --> 00:26:50.450

one where the guy was saying you know i like i get my suits that fit this particular

00:26:50.450 --> 00:26:53.750

way because you got to have room in the shoulders and you know i'm just a big

00:26:53.750 --> 00:26:58.350

dude i got different shoulders so you know That's going to be the one that you actually watch.

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The one that you actually resonate with. People love to talk that BS about they

00:27:02.190 --> 00:27:06.090

want it right now. They don't. They want somebody that they can see themselves in.

00:27:06.230 --> 00:27:08.670

Yeah, they want to relate to them. And the reason why you're online looking

00:27:08.670 --> 00:27:13.230

for a tutorial is because you're too scatterbrained to stare at a manual in

00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:16.430

a straight line format and get just the answer.

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So you say that mess, but you end up, the channels you subscribe to aren't that.

00:27:21.830 --> 00:27:26.850

I will put money on it. I will put absolute money on it that the channels that

00:27:26.850 --> 00:27:30.750

you subscribe to, the stuff that you actually enjoy watching where you can't

00:27:30.750 --> 00:27:32.110

wait till they drop another video.

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They are not the didactic one, two, three, four. Even if you have a busted brain like me.

00:27:38.958 --> 00:27:42.458

I'm just saying you, you watch personalities, you subscribe to personalities,

00:27:42.458 --> 00:27:48.698

you get that thought in the moment that you need that, just like you need a three scoop ice cream.

00:27:49.178 --> 00:27:53.078

Yeah. Sorry. Okay. No, I think you're, I think you're absolutely right.

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The thing that's really cool about life to tape or just doing the whole record situation.

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Is that you will get more comfortable with saying the things you say and the

00:28:07.098 --> 00:28:09.438

way you say it, the more you record.

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And the biggest thing that I see most people struggle with is if they want to

00:28:15.338 --> 00:28:22.078

do, let's say you want to do a 20 episode series and then you're going to take

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a break and do another 20.

00:28:24.518 --> 00:28:30.318

It's only trying to record 20. If you want to do 20, you probably got to record 60.

00:28:30.718 --> 00:28:35.458

40 may never see the light of the day, but what you do is you record things

00:28:35.458 --> 00:28:36.778

that are just nose to yourself.

00:28:37.278 --> 00:28:42.978

I will highly suggest you pop on the camera and sit down every day and have

00:28:42.978 --> 00:28:45.158

a five-minute brain dump with yourself.

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Just so you get better at talking to the camera and not panicking over,

00:28:49.998 --> 00:28:54.518

oh, my teleprompter's crooked or my hair don't look this way or whatever.

00:28:54.518 --> 00:28:57.438

You just got to get used to sitting down, turning on the camera and going.

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And this is one of the things that Ecamm can help you do as well because you

00:29:01.438 --> 00:29:02.878

can just record those into a folder.

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Here's something that's really cool. now that I've been playing with DaVinci.

00:29:06.718 --> 00:29:11.618

If you record those into a folder, you can use that to train DaVinci so that

00:29:11.618 --> 00:29:15.458

if you ever, or Descript, if you ever need to replace something you said,

00:29:15.718 --> 00:29:17.118

it can replace it and sound like you.

00:29:17.578 --> 00:29:22.098

Yep. Right? You can use that and transcribe those and use them as inputs for

00:29:22.098 --> 00:29:27.458

ChatGPT so ChatGPT knows exactly how you think and not how you think you think. Yep.

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Right? The best thing about recording all the time is knowing... You did?

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I did. I did that the other day because I was, I wanted to write a blog post

00:29:36.378 --> 00:29:39.618

about our experience for leap into life.

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And I had it on my checklist for like weeks. I was like, I need to do this. I need to do this.

00:29:44.218 --> 00:29:46.638

And then I, every time I sat down, I was overthinking it. I was like,

00:29:46.698 --> 00:29:49.318

ah, I, you know, we should, we should do a big live stream. We should record

00:29:49.318 --> 00:29:50.218

a video, blah, blah, blah.

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And then I was like, you know what? Like now that this studio again,

00:29:54.098 --> 00:29:55.258

and there's a couple of key points here.

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Now that this studio is an easier space for me to be in, I literally just,

00:29:59.358 --> 00:30:00.698

I was already sitting here at my desk.

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I I plugged in everything. And then I just recorded myself talking about it.

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I was like, this was the event.

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This was, and I just, and I didn't care exactly what I said. I rambled.

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I think it was about 20 or so minutes. I just rambled away.

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I didn't do what I normally do and stop the video and overthink it and do, I got all the way out.

00:30:18.718 --> 00:30:23.158

And then I literally just grabbed the transcript, sent it through to ChatGPT.

00:30:23.238 --> 00:30:25.298

And I was like, hey, I want to write a blog article.

00:30:26.059 --> 00:30:30.479

Here are all of my thoughts about this event, format me like an outline.

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And then it gave me back an outline. I was like, great. Help me build out this section.

00:30:34.479 --> 00:30:39.539

It took me probably start to finish an hour and a half. And I had a full episode.

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A full blog post all written out.

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And then I could grab, you know, all of the photos and things that I had from

00:30:44.939 --> 00:30:48.419

the event, little video clips and embedded in. And then I was just done off the checklist.

00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.999

And I, you could do the exact same thing with your podcast as well.

00:30:53.099 --> 00:30:57.559

Like you could jump on, you could record a two-minute video or even audio recording, whatever.

00:30:57.739 --> 00:30:59.979

It doesn't matter. You can get your thoughts out and say, hey,

00:31:00.059 --> 00:31:03.459

I want the episode to be all about this. I'm thinking I'm going to kick off with this.

00:31:03.659 --> 00:31:06.939

Here's like a pain point that normally I don't do really good with intros.

00:31:06.939 --> 00:31:11.539

So I want to be able to have a better intro, help give me some talking points, et cetera.

00:31:11.639 --> 00:31:14.659

And then throw it into an AI tool and ask for some advice on it.

00:31:14.779 --> 00:31:18.459

Have it build out an outline for you and then take that outline and put it into

00:31:18.459 --> 00:31:20.279

scenes and then you're ready to go.

00:31:20.539 --> 00:31:26.659

So you literally can edit as you record and save yourself hours and hours and hours.

00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:33.359

I have a friend, God bless him, who they record like a two plus hour podcast

00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:35.159

every single week, which is way too long.

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They don't want it to be that long. They want it to be like for them.

00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.299

There are some podcasts that do that and it's great, but for them it's too long.

00:31:41.459 --> 00:31:47.819

And so he spends hours of time painstakingly editing out everything in the episode

00:31:47.819 --> 00:31:53.699

instead of just saying like, okay, hey team, I'm going to put a little countdown timer on the corner.

00:31:53.939 --> 00:31:57.299

And when we hit the hour mark, like that's our sweet spot. We're just going to stop.

00:31:57.459 --> 00:32:00.119

And we could do a continuation episode next week. And then he wouldn't have

00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:03.099

to edit for hours and hours every week because it's not like he's editing.

00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.359

Are you talking about boss? Did he tell us? If he's boss can talk?

00:32:06.019 --> 00:32:09.819

No comment. But yeah, but he's like, it's a pain point. You're right.

00:32:10.459 --> 00:32:15.539

Dude, their energy together is so good. If they just left it alone and just

00:32:15.539 --> 00:32:20.319

be the home. Those dudes are like, they went to Cub Scouts together and they've

00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:21.159

been friends ever since.

00:32:21.879 --> 00:32:28.499

The magic is not in the content. The magic is in the inter-homie banter.

00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.639

Just how weird they are with each other and how funny they are.

00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:37.119

They're awesome. They should totally just leave it crusty. I think it would be better.

00:32:37.339 --> 00:32:41.959

Yeah, either they could just leave the full two-hour episode or they could just

00:32:41.959 --> 00:32:45.859

set themselves a timer. but they're stealing time from themselves on both ends

00:32:45.859 --> 00:32:47.119

of that, which is unfortunate.

00:32:47.419 --> 00:32:51.539

Yeah, without realizing it. Yeah, 100%. So you mentioned like the bullet points

00:32:51.539 --> 00:32:52.919

and cue cards and things like that.

00:32:53.259 --> 00:32:58.939

And again, you just said something very key, stealing time from yourself.

00:32:59.199 --> 00:33:04.899

If you don't steal time from yourself, the thing that you can do is create faster.

00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:08.939

If you create faster, you have more content.

00:33:08.939 --> 00:33:14.879

You have more of a body of work. Okay, I don't know the first thing about seamstressing,

00:33:14.959 --> 00:33:20.619

but I know that if you start out with, say, two and a half bolts,

00:33:20.939 --> 00:33:22.779

you can make more clothes.

00:33:24.123 --> 00:33:30.103

So if content is the same way, if you, you know, you go in and you're trying

00:33:30.103 --> 00:33:32.863

to make dinner and you're at the end of all of your ingredients,

00:33:32.863 --> 00:33:35.663

you're going to have a harder time. You don't have any room for mistakes.

00:33:35.843 --> 00:33:38.323

You don't have any room for, you know, adjustments.

00:33:38.543 --> 00:33:42.163

You got to kind of like go pound for pound with all the right ingredients.

00:33:42.163 --> 00:33:47.583

However, the cool thing about having more content is your audience knows you more.

00:33:47.863 --> 00:33:53.523

The SEO knows you more. The GEO, generative, now knows you even more,

00:33:53.663 --> 00:33:54.743

which is probably number one.

00:33:54.863 --> 00:33:58.863

At this point in time, if you want to win, I don't care what you're talking about.

00:33:59.103 --> 00:34:04.703

The best thing you can do is flood the system with information.

00:34:04.703 --> 00:34:12.563

It because when you do a search right now if i was to go and do a search on you know planner stuff.

00:34:13.703 --> 00:34:19.643

If if marion's not coming up number one is because the person who's creating the most is,

00:34:20.643 --> 00:34:23.543

everyone thinks the person who has the most amount of people

00:34:23.543 --> 00:34:26.243

following them is the only reason why they got that

00:34:26.243 --> 00:34:29.243

many people is because at one point they were creating the most

00:34:29.243 --> 00:34:32.923

yeah and so it's a with it they're just

00:34:32.923 --> 00:34:37.723

consistently releasing content on yeah what do you guys call this thing where

00:34:37.723 --> 00:34:41.603

you go like this yeah teeter-totter that's okay i just make it short because

00:34:41.603 --> 00:34:46.083

i don't know if i because i said it to somebody before and they were like teeter-totter

00:34:46.083 --> 00:34:50.643

i said that's what i know it as a teeter-totter um anyway if you're it's a teeter-totter

00:34:50.643 --> 00:34:52.183

this is how much you put in,

00:34:52.763 --> 00:34:56.603

and then eventually you get enough followers where this becomes the biggest

00:34:56.603 --> 00:34:59.623

weight yeah so So when you have a large following,

00:35:00.003 --> 00:35:04.563

the weight is on this side because there's more people to average hit the 10%

00:35:04.563 --> 00:35:07.863

of your audience that will actually watch your stuff. Right.

00:35:08.403 --> 00:35:12.663

But you don't have a 10% audience right now. So you have to be on the flood,

00:35:12.883 --> 00:35:14.203

the system with information.

00:35:14.543 --> 00:35:18.363

And I'm going to take this. Okay. Daryl said the other one. Seesaw.

00:35:18.923 --> 00:35:20.523

Thank you, Daryl. Oh, Seesaw. Yep.

00:35:21.463 --> 00:35:25.523

That's funny. I definitely always called it a teeter-totter. So you're fine. Me too.

00:35:26.783 --> 00:35:32.783

Me too i think my brain can't mess with the seesaw scene thing anyway um so

00:35:32.783 --> 00:35:38.023

if you are here's the thing okay i'm trying to grow my audience cool how many

00:35:38.023 --> 00:35:39.203

episodes do you got well 10,

00:35:41.003 --> 00:35:45.343

Then you're not making sense yet. It just takes time. Like that's going to just take time.

00:35:45.783 --> 00:35:50.263

A hundred percent. If you started a t-shirt brand right now to compete with

00:35:50.263 --> 00:35:57.303

Supreme, the only way you get the Supreme status is if you sell millions. Yeah.

00:35:57.783 --> 00:36:02.143

Right? When you sell millions, then you become the one that everybody wants

00:36:02.143 --> 00:36:04.163

because they've seen somebody else rocking it.

00:36:04.563 --> 00:36:08.403

But every t-shirt brand started with selling five.

00:36:08.803 --> 00:36:13.563

Yep. there's no t-shirt brand in the planet that didn't start with just selling five.

00:36:14.603 --> 00:36:19.823

Even if they did a million in a week, you have to sell more than five to get to a million.

00:36:20.683 --> 00:36:26.603

You have to sell more than 999,999 to get to a million. There's steps.

00:36:27.363 --> 00:36:32.423

So if you want the big following and you want these things for yourself, which is cool.

00:36:32.623 --> 00:36:36.143

I kind of don't really want that because it's going to become a different problem.

00:36:36.903 --> 00:36:42.263

You do have to create more. And if you could get to this thing where you just

00:36:42.263 --> 00:36:47.563

don't psych yourself out about editing, you can absolutely create more. Yeah.

00:36:48.323 --> 00:36:53.863

And at some point, the other cool thing that I think you will find if you get

00:36:53.863 --> 00:37:01.623

into the habit of being more transparent and public with your process and with your recording.

00:37:01.623 --> 00:37:04.923

So if you're recording live, If you take that step and just record live,

00:37:05.103 --> 00:37:07.803

similar to what we do, similar to what a lot of people do,

00:37:08.043 --> 00:37:12.643

you will start you will start to get immediate feedback from your community

00:37:12.643 --> 00:37:15.783

and for probably from people that you didn't even know were part of your community

00:37:15.783 --> 00:37:17.083

who are just quietly watching.

00:37:17.263 --> 00:37:20.183

But then you gave them the opportunity to be part of the conversation.

00:37:20.443 --> 00:37:24.963

Like this was an important lesson that I learned with with my show was that.

00:37:25.771 --> 00:37:29.371

You know, we had, Nat and I had started this show and we had this big list of

00:37:29.371 --> 00:37:32.191

movies that we wanted to review. Like the show was ours.

00:37:32.371 --> 00:37:34.691

We hadn't put it out in front of anyone yet. And this was like,

00:37:34.811 --> 00:37:37.811

this was the concept for the show was we were going to work our way through

00:37:37.811 --> 00:37:40.771

our favorite movies and just talk about them and get to rewatch them.

00:37:40.891 --> 00:37:44.831

And then the second that we made the show available to other people,

00:37:45.011 --> 00:37:46.851

right. And opened it up and put the show out there.

00:37:47.091 --> 00:37:50.851

Suddenly it was like, oh, well, you know, Josh's favorite movie is this thing.

00:37:51.051 --> 00:37:53.851

And Doc's favorite movie is this thing. and Paul wants to talk about this.

00:37:54.031 --> 00:37:56.651

And the show then becomes different.

00:37:56.711 --> 00:38:00.771

And I would, I would say better because now it's a community show.

00:38:00.891 --> 00:38:02.891

Like that show is called the VHS club.

00:38:03.091 --> 00:38:07.151

And now it is literally a club where people are able to contribute like what

00:38:07.151 --> 00:38:11.371

movies they're part of, and they can be guests on the show and they can be part of that experience.

00:38:11.551 --> 00:38:16.571

And so I think many of us are robbing ourselves of that experience and robbing

00:38:16.571 --> 00:38:17.991

our community of that experience.

00:38:18.471 --> 00:38:23.711

Because we are so focused on making it perfect in the way that it is in our

00:38:23.711 --> 00:38:27.671

head that we're actually spending way more time and way effort for less results.

00:38:27.831 --> 00:38:32.111

So I would say the way that you really should grow your community is by putting

00:38:32.111 --> 00:38:35.911

it out there in front of the community and by being open and vulnerable and

00:38:35.911 --> 00:38:37.331

honest enough to say like.

00:38:37.731 --> 00:38:41.131

Oh, actually, like now that I've been doing this for a little bit,

00:38:41.251 --> 00:38:44.511

now that Doc's out, I've been putting in all of these reps and I've been growing my show.

00:38:44.671 --> 00:38:48.531

I'm starting to hear that or I'm starting to see that or I'm starting to realize

00:38:48.531 --> 00:38:51.991

that my community actually wants this.

00:38:52.191 --> 00:38:56.451

And this is the area that I should be moving towards, or they really like it when I do this thing.

00:38:56.631 --> 00:38:59.111

I, you know, even the big shows, you're seeing more and more of that now,

00:38:59.211 --> 00:39:03.471

like, you know, there's been more, uh, even celebrity level shows that are doing

00:39:03.471 --> 00:39:07.691

more, you know, live video, or they're doing, they're now having like a YouTube

00:39:07.691 --> 00:39:10.971

channel for it because people want to interact with them in that way.

00:39:11.091 --> 00:39:14.931

So even though they are famous, they have a huge following and they've built

00:39:14.931 --> 00:39:19.191

a show a particular way, kind of putting it out there is allowed for them to take that feedback.

00:39:19.451 --> 00:39:22.551

So I would say not only do you need to,

00:39:22.731 --> 00:39:25.411

like, not only does this process help you save a bunch of time on the editing,

00:39:25.411 --> 00:39:29.051

because it doesn't matter as much as you think it does, but it also,

00:39:29.051 --> 00:39:33.171

by being not edited and by intentionally not editing your show,

00:39:33.351 --> 00:39:37.751

you're allowing those conversations to happen and you're allowing for people

00:39:37.751 --> 00:39:38.971

to be able to be part of it.

00:39:39.051 --> 00:39:44.191

You're not cutting out the little magic moments that might seem like a failure

00:39:44.191 --> 00:39:46.491

to you and are actually important to someone.

00:39:46.711 --> 00:39:49.791

Like something where you're like, oh, I didn't mean to say that. And you cut it out.

00:39:49.951 --> 00:39:53.491

And that could be like the jewel in your episode that really resonates with

00:39:53.491 --> 00:39:56.751

someone or is the thing that people actually really wanted to hear you talking about.

00:39:57.251 --> 00:40:02.271

Man, you know, Kate, you're on gyms today. When...

00:40:03.014 --> 00:40:09.454

TV kind of blew up big time was Real World 1, 2, and 3.

00:40:09.734 --> 00:40:13.054

Some of the OG reality TV, right?

00:40:13.334 --> 00:40:17.134

What blew it up for everybody is you got to see normal people,

00:40:17.554 --> 00:40:19.394

not actors, doing their thing.

00:40:19.734 --> 00:40:24.554

When reality TV started to suck is with people who wanted to become actors because,

00:40:24.694 --> 00:40:28.694

okay, Real World 1, 2, and 3, all of those guys eventually became sort of celebrities, right?

00:40:28.874 --> 00:40:32.074

They ended up working on TV shows or doing some other stuff.

00:40:32.634 --> 00:40:36.474

The most popular podcast in the world started out as a reality TV host.

00:40:36.934 --> 00:40:38.954

I don't know if you guys remember Fear Factor.

00:40:39.814 --> 00:40:45.014

But what happened is people decided that I can shortcut Hollywood by getting

00:40:45.014 --> 00:40:49.414

on a reality TV show and acting out a bunch of different characters in real time.

00:40:49.594 --> 00:40:53.314

That's when reality TV started to suck and became almost a meme.

00:40:53.314 --> 00:40:56.534

So then the network said

00:40:56.534 --> 00:40:59.594

okay we can't trust not we

00:40:59.594 --> 00:41:02.954

can't trust uh non-sag oriented

00:41:02.954 --> 00:41:08.814

people to be reality tv so let's go do reality tv about celebrities celebrities

00:41:08.814 --> 00:41:13.134

did the same thing they were first couple ones that seasons were just raw it

00:41:13.134 --> 00:41:17.154

was them everybody loved them it was off the hook gene simmons was pretty stupid

00:41:17.154 --> 00:41:22.654

but funny uh and you know what i hate reality tv but i watched Gene Simmons. Why?

00:41:22.874 --> 00:41:26.634

Because as a kid I had kids posters. I had kids on my notebook.

00:41:26.914 --> 00:41:30.594

You know I used to like paint my face like that come Halloween.

00:41:30.894 --> 00:41:34.574

Like yeah it was crazy. Like I want to rock and roll all night and party every day.

00:41:34.814 --> 00:41:39.374

Like I was about that life. So I watched Gene and then towards the second and

00:41:39.374 --> 00:41:42.574

third season I'm like okay now Gene you're acting. I'm pissed.

00:41:42.974 --> 00:41:46.774

Because at first you would just be a Gene. The person that we all know.

00:41:46.974 --> 00:41:50.834

The phenom. And then he started acting. So what happens is.

00:41:52.013 --> 00:41:57.073

You realize that the biggest things that have ever crossed the network air are

00:41:57.073 --> 00:42:01.033

just people being people, not the staged kind of crap.

00:42:01.293 --> 00:42:04.013

And even when you start to look at The Bachelor and some of these things,

00:42:04.093 --> 00:42:05.973

you know, what our producers are manipulating it.

00:42:06.173 --> 00:42:09.253

Now they don't have the same flair that the first couple of ones did.

00:42:09.253 --> 00:42:14.673

They all get to the point where they start messing around and it loses that rawness.

00:42:14.673 --> 00:42:20.953

And if anybody sat through Survivor 46, 26, I can't remember,

00:42:21.273 --> 00:42:27.053

when you sat through it and then you sit through lunch with Liz, that's the same Liz, yo.

00:42:27.293 --> 00:42:34.173

Yeah. There is no different between Survivor Liz and Creator Camp Liz and Liz

00:42:34.173 --> 00:42:36.413

at Craft & Commerce. It's the same Liz.

00:42:36.853 --> 00:42:39.793

So, you know, a couple of you guys had mentioned it in the chat.

00:42:39.993 --> 00:42:44.973

Like, you're legit trying to be you. Stop forcing it.

00:42:45.173 --> 00:42:49.493

Nobody cares about your perfection, fam. They're coming for you.

00:42:50.313 --> 00:42:55.873

If you develop an audience, that's the first problem. I want you to hear that word clearly.

00:42:56.273 --> 00:42:59.893

If you develop an audience, they're just going to take, take,

00:42:59.973 --> 00:43:03.613

take from you, and then you become drained because you only have so much to give.

00:43:04.753 --> 00:43:07.973

If you develop a community because they

00:43:07.973 --> 00:43:11.093

know like and trust you because they love you

00:43:11.093 --> 00:43:14.973

and vice versa you love them where you

00:43:14.973 --> 00:43:17.873

know certain things i know that every time

00:43:17.873 --> 00:43:21.013

i pick up a glass of apple juice the first

00:43:21.013 --> 00:43:23.793

thing i think to myself my glucose is going to get

00:43:23.793 --> 00:43:29.233

spiked the second thing i think to myself is gretchen's dad had a hand in this

00:43:29.233 --> 00:43:36.613

yep now i this is i bs you not i go to the grocery store i'm looking at apple

00:43:36.613 --> 00:43:41.093

juice i kind of buy treetop now before i buy what was on sale,

00:43:41.853 --> 00:43:45.713

but i kind of buy treetop now because gretchen's dad had a gretchen's dad not

00:43:45.713 --> 00:43:52.393

here but he had a hand in his my friends family apple juice i'm drinking this apple juice yep,

00:43:53.013 --> 00:43:58.753

like it sounds crazy but it is what it is you know what I mean I refuse to go

00:43:58.753 --> 00:44:02.413

to Dunkin Donuts because of Paul no I'm joking I just can't stand it it's nasty.

00:44:05.353 --> 00:44:09.633

But there's a thing like there is absolutely a thing like I feel like,

00:44:10.450 --> 00:44:14.870

I would do that for most anybody in our community because we have relationships.

00:44:14.870 --> 00:44:17.950

We go somewhere and somebody mentions Miami.

00:44:18.290 --> 00:44:21.830

We both go, oh, hey, our producer lives in Hollywood.

00:44:22.210 --> 00:44:26.610

Not the one over there, the one over there. Like it's just, it's what you do

00:44:26.610 --> 00:44:28.630

because you have connections with folks.

00:44:29.130 --> 00:44:35.610

You know what I mean? Luis, myself, Alicia, we can't drive past a mod pizza

00:44:35.610 --> 00:44:40.550

without thinking of Diana because Diana got us stuck on that mess.

00:44:40.730 --> 00:44:42.770

I love it. And it's a thing.

00:44:42.970 --> 00:44:46.990

So, yeah, let your people be. Let your people in. Stop blocking the door.

00:44:47.670 --> 00:44:51.530

Stop blocking the door. Oh, Paul said he's a cake mix, not the donut.

00:44:51.770 --> 00:44:55.210

Okay, that's better. All right, all right, all right. Deluxe Moist Duncan.

00:44:57.110 --> 00:44:58.930

All right, well, I want to give everyone— What's the challenge?

00:44:59.070 --> 00:45:00.590

What's the challenge? I want to give them a challenge.

00:45:00.830 --> 00:45:04.710

Yeah, I want to give them a challenge. So here are a couple of steps that you

00:45:04.710 --> 00:45:07.510

can and should take in the next week. All right.

00:45:07.690 --> 00:45:13.070

So everyone, find a space that you can record in. So if you don't have a defined

00:45:13.070 --> 00:45:14.830

space, give yourself a defined space.

00:45:14.950 --> 00:45:17.530

It does not have to be big. It does not have to be fancy.

00:45:17.770 --> 00:45:20.910

It doesn't have to have all of the gear that's in all of the other people's studio spaces.

00:45:21.190 --> 00:45:25.430

You literally just need a quiet space that's set up and ready to go.

00:45:25.530 --> 00:45:28.970

And then pick a day, any day, don't care when it is.

00:45:29.110 --> 00:45:34.870

Give yourself a bit of time. Sit down in your defined space and set up a couple

00:45:34.870 --> 00:45:40.450

of simple scenes that are a visual representation of the bullet points of the

00:45:40.450 --> 00:45:41.770

content you wanna record.

00:45:41.990 --> 00:45:47.170

Either live stream it or record it, but do an episode in the live to tape format

00:45:47.170 --> 00:45:48.530

where you're just going through.

00:45:48.770 --> 00:45:52.610

You are not, you have no script. No one's allowed a script, no script.

00:45:52.630 --> 00:45:58.630

You just have a couple of bullet points on cards or visually in your Ecamm scenes

00:45:58.630 --> 00:46:00.350

and get all the way through the episode.

00:46:00.570 --> 00:46:03.410

Do not edit it and then tag us in it.

00:46:03.924 --> 00:46:07.924

Either, you know, either share it with us on social or drop it into the community.

00:46:08.084 --> 00:46:11.224

Ecamm.tv slash community is where you'll find our community group.

00:46:11.484 --> 00:46:14.104

But tag us in it and let us know so we can, we can, you know,

00:46:14.224 --> 00:46:16.524

shout you out and give you some support.

00:46:16.784 --> 00:46:21.604

But go, go through and get at least one rep in this week. If you have not done

00:46:21.604 --> 00:46:24.964

this and if you're doing it on a regular, tag us in that anyway and let us know

00:46:24.964 --> 00:46:26.824

what you're up to and what your episode is like.

00:46:26.944 --> 00:46:29.364

But do not, do not edit it at all.

00:46:29.564 --> 00:46:32.464

Don't even think about editing. Think about get the content out there.

00:46:33.064 --> 00:46:37.684

Be real, be you, and flow through it without worrying too much about the full

00:46:37.684 --> 00:46:41.804

plan and overthinking the script and whether or not you have a teleprompter set up.

00:46:42.044 --> 00:46:46.644

Just get the content out there in a real way and let that one go.

00:46:46.744 --> 00:46:48.764

And then we can get into the next one.

00:46:49.004 --> 00:46:52.924

Because I think all of us are just overthinking this way too much. So definitely do that.

00:46:53.124 --> 00:47:01.244

And then if you have not yet, you can swing over to ecamm.com slash one take, O-N-E-T-A-K-E.

00:47:01.244 --> 00:47:06.324

That will get you access into Alec's free one-take workshop where he talks through

00:47:06.324 --> 00:47:11.264

exactly step-by-step tutorial style, how you can do this in Ecamm if you're

00:47:11.264 --> 00:47:12.864

brand new or if you haven't gone through that.

00:47:12.984 --> 00:47:16.104

It's a great free resource. You can watch it at your own pace at this point.

00:47:16.264 --> 00:47:20.864

He's done already the live recording. So now it's just the video to take in at your pace.

00:47:21.044 --> 00:47:25.844

So again, ecamm.com slash one-take is how you can get access to that.

00:47:26.824 --> 00:47:33.544

You know, I would give you one more good one that I realize now is bigger than ever.

00:47:34.764 --> 00:47:38.824

Props can help you keep your brain on track.

00:47:39.104 --> 00:47:43.604

And one of the most famous ones, if you're trying to create something,

00:47:44.184 --> 00:47:48.484

is a whiteboard or a small blackboard in a fat chalk.

00:47:48.884 --> 00:47:52.744

And then so you can just like scrub your piece down real quick.

00:47:52.884 --> 00:47:57.104

And then all you would do is like, you literally just write the one word.

00:47:57.284 --> 00:48:00.624

Do not write the whole sentence, right? Just write the one word and then talk about it.

00:48:00.784 --> 00:48:04.224

And so you see a lot of people do that now. They'll have a little small about,

00:48:04.224 --> 00:48:07.204

you know, your big blackboard or whiteboard and they just write something on

00:48:07.204 --> 00:48:09.984

it and they'll be like, okay, so we're going to speak upon this.

00:48:10.084 --> 00:48:11.664

And then you're going to go a little more. You're going to say,

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we're going to speak upon that.

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That's also the reason why I always thought it was just irritating,

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but I realized why people do it now.

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People who hold their, their mic, you know, when they talk, it's a prop doing

00:48:26.304 --> 00:48:30.624

this or holding the spatula or whatever, it's a comfort blanket.

00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:34.740

It's not because they're trying to irritate us with how bad it sounds.

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So it actually, Mary Lou taught me that. She goes, for the people that are doing

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that, it's a comfort blanket.

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So if you got to use a prop, use a prop. Like you could legit have a spatula

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or a spoon in your hand and be like, yo, I'm going to give you some tips right now.

00:48:53.060 --> 00:48:56.140

Let's go to the level of your business practice faster than you can make instant

00:48:56.140 --> 00:49:00.000

ramen. and you're literally holding like a chopsticks standing in front of the

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microwave and you just give the tips. Yep.

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Like connected to things that connect to people, right?

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Oh, you broke. I'm going to show you how to do this on like a top ramen budget

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and you legit make ramen while you talk about the things that you can do.

00:49:14.540 --> 00:49:17.580

Like Mary Ann's talking about planners and stuff, the things that you can do

00:49:17.580 --> 00:49:20.920

in a planner space that are say under five bucks, right?

00:49:21.020 --> 00:49:25.100

That will level up your thing. make that while you're making top ramen like

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have the tea kettle have the little cup noodle,

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and then you sitting at your desk with the cup noodle and

00:49:31.300 --> 00:49:35.120

you pour it in there you got to close it and you got it three minutes right

00:49:35.120 --> 00:49:38.580

if you go longer than three the noodles are soggy and then they're trash three

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minutes no more than three minutes people so you you put it you do it and while

00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.860

you're talking and then you okay i got three minutes to get these out but ain't

00:49:45.860 --> 00:49:52.980

but ain't but those versus just sitting there, suit and tie.

00:49:53.460 --> 00:49:59.420

Today, we're going to talk about the correlation between the positive gravitational

00:49:59.420 --> 00:50:07.060

pull of a train moving at 33.5 miles an hour and Occam's Razor. Is it real or is it fake?

00:50:07.300 --> 00:50:10.060

What are you talking about? Like legit.

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So just try it. Try using the props thing. If you want to know how to do that,

00:50:14.500 --> 00:50:19.200

watch Mary, Mary, I'm about to say Ann, Mary Lou. That woman would be putting

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on her makeup, talking about something or curling her hair or petting her cat.

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Or, yo, she's the queen of just thinking in random props.

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But people will slam the brakes on it because they're cat people.

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It's captivating. Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. Exactly. Cat. It's cat debating.

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Well, on that note, I'm happy to say that because we had a month off,

00:50:44.420 --> 00:50:49.540

we are actually like on schedule and on track. And so we know that next week's

00:50:49.540 --> 00:50:52.380

episode is going to be a really special, fun one.

00:50:52.540 --> 00:50:56.880

So I hope that you'll join us for next week. We're going to be joined by Michael from Ultra Speaking.

00:50:57.180 --> 00:51:00.720

And we're going to talk about what Ultra Speaking is. We're going to play some

00:51:00.720 --> 00:51:05.160

improv games, which I love because it totally puts me out of my comfort zone, which is great.

00:51:05.780 --> 00:51:08.640

And I think it'll help kind of be a great continuation of this

00:51:08.640 --> 00:51:11.640

topic so if you do record a video this week

00:51:11.640 --> 00:51:15.040

be sure to join us next week so that you can learn a little bit more about kind

00:51:15.040 --> 00:51:19.000

of how to get out of your own head and use some of those tactics that you find

00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:23.540

within improv to just be your best self on camera so super exciting to have

00:51:23.540 --> 00:51:28.280

Michael on next week and hope everyone joins us for that one and on that front

00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.440

I think that's about it any final thoughts doc.

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No, just go make something. Like legit, just go make something.

00:51:36.156 --> 00:51:40.136

Like it really, now that I've, I don't even know what day it is now.

00:51:40.256 --> 00:51:42.156

I think it's like 278 or something.

00:51:42.356 --> 00:51:47.956

Now that I've done a video every day for 278 days, I can't tell you how easy it is.

00:51:48.216 --> 00:51:51.916

Like the whole point of this was to prove that you can't get burned out if you

00:51:51.916 --> 00:51:54.656

just like let go of a bunch of crazy stuff.

00:51:55.256 --> 00:51:58.916

And now it just flows. It flows.

00:51:59.456 --> 00:52:02.796

It flows. It just flows. I just sit down in my chair and do my thing.

00:52:02.976 --> 00:52:04.916

It just flows. Like, it's easier.

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Even with all the experience I had, it's even easier for me now just because I have done it so many.

00:52:10.276 --> 00:52:13.076

So now when Kate and Jill are like, hey, I need to make a video,

00:52:13.116 --> 00:52:15.696

I can just sit down and make the video. I don't even think about it.

00:52:15.816 --> 00:52:19.516

I just pull up my notes and go because I have so many reps in,

00:52:19.636 --> 00:52:24.716

almost 300 days of videos in a row of reps in. It just comes out. Like, it just works.

00:52:25.236 --> 00:52:28.696

So really, the overthinking is the devil. All right.

00:52:28.836 --> 00:52:31.656

So let's bring up our normal talking points.

00:52:31.756 --> 00:52:37.136

But a quick reminder is if you haven't already come and check us out at flow.ecam.com.

00:52:37.516 --> 00:52:41.816

That is where you can subscribe to any of your favorite podcast readers.

00:52:42.076 --> 00:52:46.256

You can leave us questions, comments, feedback, record us a message.

00:52:46.976 --> 00:52:49.856

I think Katie has it filled out. If you're trying to be a guest,

00:52:49.896 --> 00:52:53.096

you can do all of that over at flow.ecam.com.

00:52:53.296 --> 00:52:57.056

So that is super, super exciting. So make sure you go and do that.

00:52:57.056 --> 00:53:03.056

And we'd like to thank our partners, sure, because they sure make us sound good.

00:53:05.196 --> 00:53:08.796

But yo, we love Shore. Shore has been the best. Thank you so much to everybody

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00:53:20.616 --> 00:53:23.796

Absolutely. And definitely join us next week where we're going to be hanging

00:53:23.796 --> 00:53:25.856

out with Michael from Ultra Speaking.

00:53:26.436 --> 00:53:30.776

You can get information on that episode over on YouTube or at flow.ecam.com.

00:53:30.876 --> 00:53:31.976

But it's going to be a good one.

00:53:32.136 --> 00:53:35.256

Send us any questions you have in advance or join us live and ask them there.

00:53:35.456 --> 00:53:40.096

But not when you want to listen to on the recording later. I think this is when

00:53:40.096 --> 00:53:42.636

you're going to want to actually be there with us in the moment,

00:53:42.896 --> 00:53:45.756

having some fun and playing along. So join us live for that one.

00:53:46.836 --> 00:53:49.676

Yeah, you might have to pull over on the side of the road for next week. Yeah, yeah.

00:53:52.396 --> 00:53:58.176

Mahalo, everyone. Flow writers, out! Bye, everyone. It's been so long since I got to say that.

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