The Flow: Episode 111 - How We Remote Produce Our Podcast – Part 2 (Advanced Tips & BTS Workflow)

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<v Doc>Aloha Pro Riders and welcome to edition of the flow. This time you got me,

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<v Doc>Doc Rock along with our producer, Mr. Camera Junkie. Hello, Luis.

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<v Luis>How you doing doc?

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<v Doc>Today, we're going to continue our flow production conversation,

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<v Doc>get into some tips, sort of remind you if you didn't see the last one, um,

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<v Doc>in the previous episode, we talked a little bit about how we produce the flow

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<v Doc>and how we make this video podcast and stuff way easier because still I just

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<v Doc>came back from two conferences and the only thing I ever hear is I don't do

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<v Doc>video because it's harder.

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<v Doc>I don't know why that makes me chuckle because video is easier I really don't

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<v Doc>understand how everybody thinks it's harder video is easier the other one that's

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<v Doc>kind of funny is people often say that video is expensive-er.

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<v Doc>That's not how they say it. They use real English.

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<v Doc>But I'm like, nah, not really. Nowadays, it doesn't have to be because everyone owns a phone.

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<v Doc>Like, unless you're one of those people who are on an iPhone 8, you're kind of good.

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<v Doc>I mean, pretty much everybody has a phone. So if you did nothing but fire up

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<v Doc>Ecamm and put your phone on, you're kind of gangster.

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<v Doc>But if you do go in nowadays, you can get cameras like Paul.

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<v Doc>Paul's rocking a $120 camera that looks good it looks good with his face in

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<v Doc>it don't tell Paul we said that,

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<v Doc>so first of all welcome we're going to talk about this if you have questions

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<v Doc>of course you can throw those joints into the chatty chat and then we can get

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<v Doc>at them and I guess what was your key takeaway from the last conversation what

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<v Doc>kind of popped your socks over there.

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<v Luis>Oh, that was a couple of weeks ago. So a lot has happened since that conversation.

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<v Luis>I fully understand this, but you do this every Tuesday.

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<v Luis>But you're saying what was the thing that reminded me or like stuck out the most two weeks ago?

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<v Doc>Yeah.

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<v Luis>Two weeks ago, like that was such a long conversation. I don't remember what

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<v Luis>I had for lunch two days ago.

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<v Luis>But, you know, I'm being honest.

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<v Luis>But it just depends on which aspects because there's always a lot of different things.

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<v Luis>I think we were getting into and we were starting to scratch the surface of

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<v Luis>like the post-production aspect of it, which is what I think like I wanted to

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<v Luis>touch into, which we're going to talk about today.

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<v Doc>Yeah, so we're definitely going to talk about the post-production.

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<v Doc>I think so, again, I just came from this conference and, you know,

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<v Doc>a lot of people were having questions about remote production.

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<v Doc>And again, everybody assumes it's hard. And it kind of seems the one thing that

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<v Doc>people are kind of stuck on is understanding the idea of you calling a producer

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<v Doc>and the producer press pressing all the buttons for you.

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<v Doc>And I'll say as a person who runs their own show.

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<v Doc>And the person that gets to do this show where you're kind of pressing the buttons.

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<v Doc>I can't say that one is easier than the other, but I do feel no pun intended people.

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<v Doc>The flow of the one where I don't have to press any buttons is easier.

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<v Doc>And that's coming from somebody who is fully capable of pressing all the buttons

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<v Doc>for the people who feel like they struggle with the concept of doing the two things at one time.

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<v Doc>I think the remote producer is an absolute, you should do it.

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<v Doc>I guess the funny part of that. You know what? Go.

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<v Luis>Well what i would you just sparked part of the conversation that i just got reminded of

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<v Doc>The host job release do you know how this works.

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<v Luis>Yeah exactly so let me let me add them to it right let's add to it but that

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<v Luis>you had actually mentioned that there were so many people who've actually have

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<v Luis>done productions do podcasts or video interviews and have never been in a guest themselves,

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<v Luis>which is like mind boggling to me, because that's one of the big takeaways.

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<v Luis>Like you just mentioned, I do all the button pushing.

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<v Luis>I've also been as a guest on other shows and it's far easier to be a guest, you know,

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<v Luis>like even though we like the button pressing and we enjoy the production side

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<v Luis>and we know how to do it for ourselves.

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<v Luis>When we have somebody else doing it for you is like going out to eat,

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<v Luis>you know, instead of cooking your own meal.

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<v Luis>It's just, you know, you're going to get a completely different experience and

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<v Luis>you're going to get to enjoy all of the benefits of the meal without having

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<v Luis>to worry about, you know, prep or cleanup.

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<v Doc>Yeah, that's true. It is exactly kind of like going to a restaurant.

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<v Doc>I definitely feel sometimes you go to the restaurant, it's like,

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<v Doc>man, I could have cooked that.

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<v Doc>But you know, you also don't have to clean that. Except for really,

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<v Doc>really high Italian restaurants.

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<v Doc>I feel like that about most of your basic Italian restaurants.

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<v Doc>Like I can outcook Olive Garden.

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<v Doc>But actually, I haven't been to Olive Garden in 10 years.

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<v Doc>But when you do go, you're like, yeah, look, I don't got to clean up.

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<v Doc>Like, I'm pretty sure I can outcook CPK, Olive Garden, all of those basic kind of places.

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<v Doc>But, you know, as far as the Mama Canelis, I can't do that. Like, she's going to smoke us.

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<v Doc>So there's that.

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<v Luis>But it's the effort involved.

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<v Doc>Yes. It's the effort, the prep, like all of that little stuff.

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<v Doc>Especially when you go and you get something a little bit more highfalutin than

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<v Doc>you can sort of do at home.

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<v Doc>The problem is I tend to go to pasta places and I get one or two things.

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<v Doc>Creamy pesto, because that's the bomb. Also super easy or number one,

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<v Doc>Cacio Pepe, which is simple, but when it's done in a pro kitchen, it's way better.

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<v Doc>It's emulsifying on a regular stove that doesn't generate the type of heat that

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<v Doc>a pro stove does. Completely different game. Why are we talking about this? Never mind.

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<v Doc>So let's dive deeper into this. Quick reminder, this particular,

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<v Doc>oh my God, I'm hungry now.

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<v Doc>This particular episode is brought to you by Shure. You guys know,

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<v Doc>sure, they're our favorite people, but we'll put a link to that in the description.

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<v Doc>And of course, we'll talk about them at the end. Let's dive in.

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<v Doc>So what has been some of the biggest changes for you as far as remote production

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<v Doc>workflow over, say, like the last six to eight months?

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<v Luis>I would say six to eight months, maybe even a year, I would still have to say

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<v Luis>the biggest change in addition has actually had to be Ecamm version.

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<v Luis>That whole integration and everything to be able to host a variety of different,

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<v Luis>you know, guests a lot easier offloading a lot of the production or like the,

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<v Luis>the, how you say the strain that you would put on your system,

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<v Luis>loading that off to Zoom and having them handle the audio and video to allow

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<v Luis>the production on the Ecamm site to work better, I have to say,

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<v Luis>it's got to be the biggest thing for me within that timeframe.

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<v Doc>Love that. Love that. Now, uh, Gary just mentioned in the chat that to Gary,

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<v Doc>your biggest highlight from the last episode was Stream Deck.

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<v Doc>And since we're going to talk about updates, I want to talk about the new So

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<v Doc>the new Stream Deck software that brings in virtual Stream Decks is bananas.

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<v Doc>Rich hates when I say bananas, but you know what, Rich? Too bad because it's

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<v Doc>bananas. It's really bananas.

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<v Luis>Well, you can tell me a little bit about it because I'm not familiar.

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<v Luis>I haven't updated recently.

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<v Doc>Okay. So you have to go to Stream Deck.

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<v Doc>You have to go to Elgato website, go on Stream Deck, and then download the beta

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<v Doc>version of the software.

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<v Doc>But what they basically did was allow

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<v Doc>you to build stream decks that are on screen

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<v Doc>and cool if you

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<v Doc>happen to sidecar an ipad because you know there is stream deck mobile but it's

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<v Doc>semi-limited but stream deck virtual is crazy and it could be whatever shape

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<v Doc>you want it could be as many buttons as you want it could do everything this

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<v Doc>is not weird and i have to point this out because People get very crazy.

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<v Doc>Well, how come you still need a stream deck?

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<v Doc>Because they sell stream decks, homie. Like this is how business works.

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<v Doc>You never mind. I won't say bad words.

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<v Doc>People are mad because you have to have your stream deck plugged in at least

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<v Doc>once every 30 days in order for it to keep going. It is not a replacement for

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<v Doc>the stream deck because it's free.

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<v Luis>It's an addition to it.

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<v Doc>It's an addition to it. So you do need to plug a stream deck in.

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<v Doc>But if you're a person who's limited on desk space, maybe, or you just want

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<v Doc>to build out something crazy, Paul kind of stream deck, Paul could take one of his monitors, right?

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<v Doc>And like put it right above the Elgato teleprompter or right below it and fill

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<v Doc>that sucker with stream deck buttons and actually shape and group and color code them.

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<v Doc>So like there's a purple one for my show and an orange one for the Ecamm show

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<v Doc>and like a different color one for another show. Like, Paul can go to town and his things. And...

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<v Doc>You do not have to sidecar your iPad, but if you do, that would give you a touch surface.

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<v Doc>I actually own a monitor that's over here just out of sight.

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<v Doc>It's called the JSOX or J-OX actually, but J-S-OX. I don't know why I call it

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<v Doc>JSOX. Maybe it's because I'm a Red Sox fan.

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<v Doc>That is a touchscreen monitor. So for instance, I can put that over there,

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<v Doc>put both of them suckers on there, right?

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<v Doc>Fill it all up with buttons and then do it. Like it's bananas.

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<v Doc>So go to Elgato. I'm trying to find a link. Paul will find a link.

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<v Doc>But basically go to Elgato, get the demo, not the demo, the beta.

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<v Doc>Download it, and you can create some virtual stream deck buttons.

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<v Doc>And since it's been about two weeks since it came out, I'm going to bet that

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<v Doc>somewhere between Neil and Alec, there's already like a tutorial on how to get

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<v Doc>up in there. But it's relatively simple.

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<v Doc>It's relatively simple. And it's really cool.

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<v Doc>And again, because it's on your computer, you can go to town with like cutifying

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<v Doc>your buttons and making them straight gangster.

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<v Doc>The other thing that came out, which works good for us, is the Stream Deck modules finally dropped.

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<v Doc>And Stream Deck modules allow you to like 3D print or wood cut or paper craft

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<v Doc>your own situation when it comes to how you want the layout.

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<v Doc>Because you basically just get the board. All the plastic is missing.

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<v Doc>It comes with a board that has a USB in the bottom.

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<v Doc>And so you could build your own thing. So people are like routing out the thing in the desk.

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<v Doc>Like I got a big, big old, I'm about to say that word. I got a big tree right here.

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<v Doc>Like it's a four inch tree, Koa.

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<v Doc>Not that I'm going to do it because this is an $8,000 top, but I could route a hole in it.

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<v Doc>Put the decks right in there and then tap tap tap tap like if.

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<v Luis>It were ikea

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<v Doc>Yeah if it was ikea that boy get cut

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<v Doc>up we're getting cut up costco 250 that boy getting cut up eight grand for a

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<v Doc>tree exactly no no i didn't pay eight grand for this tree but if i were to sell

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<v Doc>it to somebody that's what i could sell it for i i made it myself so the the

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<v Doc>blink slab was probably about four grand anyway it's.

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<v Luis>Funny because my mind went right there because

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<v Luis>as soon as you started talking about it my mind jumped to

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<v Luis>those external touchscreen monitors that you could just put off to the side

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<v Luis>connect via usbc and you're set like you really are golden and because it works

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<v Luis>with the original stream deck you can switch pages yes on a button on the stream

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<v Luis>deck will give you like unlimited

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<v Doc>Virtual use the stream deck to control the screen

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<v Doc>one or you use the screen when you can vice-versa like

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<v Doc>it's pretty pretty sexy rich did have a question rich says

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<v Doc>how do you sidecar your ipad um either

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<v Doc>throw a cable in it and it comes up or you

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<v Doc>can do it wirelessly like both both directions work it um all you need is i

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<v Doc>think in an ipad that can go like ios i want to say 12 and above it's been a

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<v Doc>minute so i think so yeah if they're in the same network you can just sidecar And if it's not,

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<v Doc>you put a cable in it and then you can set it up as an additional display.

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<v Doc>So yeah, super cool. Cause then you could put everything over there.

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<v Luis>But yeah, the only thing you would just need to check to make sure is that your

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<v Luis>iPad can handle sidecar because not all of them had the capability to do it.

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<v Luis>And if so, if it's connected on the same iCloud account, then they should communicate

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<v Luis>to each other the same way that your phone kind of connects to your system as continuity camera.

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<v Luis>The iPad should connect the same way as a sidecar.

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<v Doc>So Rich is saying that he hasn't been able to get it to work with the iPad.

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<v Doc>I'm going to go get, I'm not going to get my iPad right now because I can't

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<v Doc>leave Luis to talk to y'all for 10 minutes while I walk my fat butt upstairs.

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<v Doc>But I'm going to try it after this. I'll bring it, I'll bring it down and I'll

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<v Doc>try to put it on the extra iPad.

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<v Doc>Cause I mean, it should work, but I mean, at this, at this point in time,

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<v Doc>you can get a touchscreen display from Temu for like 25, 30 bones.

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<v Doc>And like that would work.

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<v Doc>All right, let's go. Anyway, so that's a cool update to me.

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<v Doc>I think one of the other new tools, and I guess this one will go to my buddy

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<v Doc>Rich, not really a production tool, but a pre-production tool.

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<v Doc>And that is Magi, which is an AI tool that allows you to use all of the top

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<v Doc>bots or AI, you know, platforms for a single price.

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<v Doc>And it's pretty cool. So you can use Claw, ChatGPT, Llama, DeepSearch,

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<v Doc>DeepSeek, whatever the heck it's called. You can use Gemini,

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<v Doc>all the pro versions basically for $20.

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<v Doc>And I've been playing with it so much that last night when I was finishing up

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<v Doc>my episode, it said you ran out of words. Because I've been playing with the

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<v Doc>image thing too much and it eats up the most words.

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<v Doc>I literally just, I worked that sucker to death, bro. It is mad.

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<v Doc>It's like, no, you're done. You're done for a couple of weeks.

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<v Doc>But I think my usage is probably way heavier than most Ken folks.

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<v Doc>It says I use ninety nine thousand nine hundred and eighty nine words and you

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<v Doc>get a hundred hundred grand. But I got six days until it resets.

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<v Doc>So I guess luckily for me, I can go back.

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<v Doc>It says that my current word use is actually after that last push is one hundred

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<v Doc>thousand three eighty nine. So I went three eighty nine over.

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<v Doc>So I'm like, this is pretty gangster. This is pretty gangster.

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<v Doc>Now, it's been less than a month for me. So I might have to go to a bigger plan

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<v Doc>because I beat the brakes off this sucker. But it's pretty cool.

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<v Doc>And I will say I have to give my apologies to Rich and them who've been telling me you should do this.

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<v Doc>I'm like, whatever, man, you should whatever, man. It's, it's actually dope. It's super dope.

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<v Luis>Rich is telling you, you can reload more.

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<v Doc>He said I could top up. Um, if I, I, let me see, I can top up for five bones.

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<v Doc>I can add another 10,000 or for 25 bones, I can add another 25,000.

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<v Doc>So yeah, I'll probably do that rather than stop because I'm having way too much fun playing with it.

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<v Doc>All right. So let's think about something. Um, So I'm trying to make sure that

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<v Doc>we cover any questions that came with the last time that we didn't get to.

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<v Doc>But let's dive into sort of the guest prep, because this was one of the things

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<v Doc>that came up when we were at KIT Crafting Commerce last weekend,

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<v Doc>people talking about guest prep.

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<v Doc>So you have a really cool situation. So maybe pretend I'm a guest and go through

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<v Doc>what your thing looks like.

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<v Doc>Okay so we're going to roll credits and this is louise showing doc how to be

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<v Doc>a guest on the flow and five four three.

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<v Luis>How are you doing, Doc? Welcome to the flow.

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<v Doc>Hi. How's it? Well, how's it? How's it?

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<v Luis>Well, if Doc were to be someone that really doesn't know it,

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<v Luis>the first thing that I would do is to make sure that he's comfortable.

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<v Luis>And then the first thing that I check is to make sure that the audio and visuals

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<v Luis>are good because that's usually the main thing that the guest is worried about on their end.

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<v Luis>Right? So right off the bat, you say, okay, you look and you sound good.

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<v Luis>Right? And if it doesn't, then that's the first thing that we fix right away.

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<v Luis>And as soon as we get that, it usually sets the guests at ease because now,

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<v Luis>Hey, you know what? The rest can be taken care of.

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<v Luis>The next step that I do, and I'm going to hop into live demo mode real quick.

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<v Luis>Make sure we're showing you. Yep. The next thing I do is that I walk them through

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<v Luis>the run of show, which is what I have here off to the left-hand side in my scenes.

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<v Luis>And as you can see, the first thing that we have there is the intro.

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<v Luis>Then we have, it says DNK, which is Doc and Katie usually for 20 seconds on the first screen,

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<v Luis>which has the flow and the names, and then it automatically switches to like

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<v Luis>a less, you know, graphically heavy scene.

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<v Luis>And that's the next step. So if it's usually Doc and Katie, I don't have to explain this to them.

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<v Luis>If there is a guest, we have a three person shot right over here,

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<v Luis>which is usually the way that we set it up and I'm walking them through the entire steps.

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<v Luis>Once I've basically set everything up in the background, I will then go to the

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<v Luis>guests and show them the runner show and tell them, Hey, this is exactly what

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<v Luis>we're planning to do in our show.

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<v Luis>First, we're going to start with our 20 second intro.

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<v Luis>We hop into the Doc and Katie scene where they will introduce you as a guest.

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<v Luis>As soon as they introduce you as a guest, we will then go to the three person

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<v Luis>pop-up, which would be this scene and go, this is where the remainder of the show is going to happen.

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<v Luis>Once we get to our ad reads, that's not the shot that we need.

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<v Luis>Um, once we get to the ad reads.

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<v Luis>Um, we will then talk about the flow, then we talk about shore and we will come

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<v Luis>back to that three person shot right here.

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<v Luis>But in this case is the two person shot to close out the show at this moment

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<v Luis>is when I usually ask the guests if they have a presentation or a screen share

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<v Luis>that they might want to add to the production.

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<v Luis>And if so, we'll set all of those things up the same way. I'll go through the

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<v Luis>scenes and set up the screen share for that guest.

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<v Luis>And then once again, to set them at ease, I asked them, do you have any questions

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<v Luis>on the way that we have the production?

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<v Luis>Or is there anything that you feel like that you would like to know before we go live?

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<v Luis>And that's my sort of walkthrough and run of show that I do depending on exactly

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<v Luis>what guests and what we're presenting that I do before we go live.

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<v Luis>Just to set the client's mind at ease.

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<v Doc>And it's really helpful. I've watched the people go through this and seen their

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<v Doc>face change in the middle.

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<v Doc>Like literally watch them go through.

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<v Doc>So I do want to point something out. John was asking a question about doing

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<v Doc>a podcast with a single remote guest. Can you just use the interview mode? Absolutely.

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<v Doc>The interview mode does work. I will tell you, even as an ECAM person who used

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<v Doc>interview mode for well over 3,000, 4,000 hours, Like I've been in that Tucker six days a week.

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<v Doc>Sometimes Zoom is way easier. Zoom is 15 bones a month.

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<v Doc>I'm hard pressed to be like, why you wouldn't give up them 15 bones a month for Zoom just for this?

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<v Doc>Cause even then you're, you're, you're, what's the word I'm looking for?

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<v Doc>Your production is simpler. Your guests are more comfortable because your guests are,

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<v Doc>everybody, your cat knows how to use Zoom. Your dog, roaches know how to use Zoom.

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<v Doc>But when you interview mode is simple, it's simple. It's so frustrating to me

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<v Doc>because there's no reason why any human in this planet can't open a Chrome browser

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<v Doc>and basically have the same experiences we have in Zoom,

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<v Doc>but there is a mental block and you spend so much time combing through that mental block.

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<v Doc>I have that scene hidden and it's still plenings. Why is that?

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<v Doc>Anyway, that, that thing, like it

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<v Doc>really really does make people lose

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<v Doc>their cookies and i can't say i understand it but

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<v Doc>i've experienced it people just have a mental block

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<v Doc>when it comes to using the chrome you know interview dial

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<v Doc>back in you can't use safari then they got questions

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<v Doc>well it doesn't work on the p if it works on chrome it works on pc it

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<v Doc>works on linux it works on bnw dashboard

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<v Doc>it works on anything because it's just chrome but you

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<v Doc>can't you can't get that through the muggles muggles be muggling out

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<v Doc>here so i honestly and people would tell you um john because you're new here

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<v Doc>i was the most anti-zoom person in the planet i was like nope nope nope nope

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<v Doc>nope nope nope it's way easier in zoom the audio and one thing that zoom does

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<v Doc>better than anything else,

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<v Doc>when your internet goes dumb for your guests or yourself for that matter Zoom

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<v Doc>has the best video compression in the world.

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<v Doc>Everybody else will turn into a bunch of pixels, but Zoom will try to hold it

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<v Doc>down and they hold it down better than anybody.

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<v Doc>So this is not even an advertisement for Zoom.

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<v Doc>I'm just saying, right? When your guests get bad internet, they start to look

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<v Doc>like this and there's nothing you can do about it. And then your audience is tripping.

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<v Doc>But Zoom, that was me. I did that on purpose, Luis. Don't panic. Don't panic, bro.

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<v Luis>Because it was well-timed. It was well-timed.

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<v Doc>The other one is pixely instead of you know like but

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<v Doc>yeah trust me it's it's worth 15 bucks if you gotta rob somebody rob somebody

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<v Doc>get them 15 bucks but like definitely i dude i work here and i would tell you

00:23:02.969 --> 00:23:06.409

<v Doc>that ours is the best but some of the things that happens with that tool are

00:23:06.409 --> 00:23:11.529

<v Doc>out of our hands so yeah zoom is just better i'm sorry and.

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<v Luis>It's it's just become synonymous with like virtual meetings because yeah you

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<v Luis>know going back five years um nobody even uses skype anymore

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<v Doc>And that's the whole skype out of business exactly.

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<v Luis>So that's why i said like it's just become synonymous the way that you would

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<v Luis>say hey search this up you literally say hey google this because google has

00:23:35.589 --> 00:23:41.549

<v Luis>become synonymous with search engines i feel that zoom has just become synonymous with that meeting.

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<v Luis>And it's just easier for people to say like, oh, I'm just going to hop on a

00:23:45.289 --> 00:23:49.589

<v Luis>Zoom meeting instead of telling them, hey, I'm going to bring you in through interview mode.

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<v Luis>And maybe even the word interview mode, right? Interview is probably one of

00:23:53.849 --> 00:23:56.049

<v Luis>the first things that they hear that they're like, oh my God.

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<v Luis>But it's basically the same thing. And it's just another way of connecting.

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<v Doc>John said, I love it. Muggles. Yo, muggles is my word, John.

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<v Doc>Sorry. I use it all the time.

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<v Doc>But yes, it is so much easier. It'll make your guests more comfortable.

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<v Doc>And it's one less thing you have to worry about. And then you just sort of follow

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<v Doc>Louisa's kind of like, you know, go down and show them what you're going to

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<v Doc>do. And then they feel even better.

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<v Doc>So super cool. Let's dive into some tools that we get into.

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<v Doc>So, um, we use a combination of Cal and Lee or Savvy Cal to book interviews.

00:24:28.309 --> 00:24:32.309

<v Doc>Um, I, we were heavily Cal and Lee. We're starting to move over to Savvy Cal.

00:24:32.429 --> 00:24:35.249

<v Doc>They're both very good tools. just Savvy Cow works

00:24:35.249 --> 00:24:38.729

<v Doc>better for teams and well to us anyway and

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<v Doc>that's what we're using for our team calendar so we started to move to that

00:24:41.889 --> 00:24:49.909

<v Doc>on my personal show I use Notion and I go live ahead of time and we show people

00:24:49.909 --> 00:24:55.869

<v Doc>the mess that is Mary Lou and I building and run a show in Notion on this particular

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<v Doc>show Graham we're using Milanote,

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<v Doc>Um, and Milanote is great because it's a little bit more visual and we don't

00:25:04.830 --> 00:25:09.030

<v Doc>have to worry about our associate producer, Paul, who's 95.

00:25:09.890 --> 00:25:14.030

<v Doc>He like, he can see and know what's going on. It's a lot easier than notion.

00:25:14.210 --> 00:25:18.450

<v Doc>No, really what it is, is notion is straight line or linear.

00:25:20.090 --> 00:25:24.530

<v Doc>Whereas Milanote is kind of like a whiteboard. You could put junk wherever you

00:25:24.530 --> 00:25:29.790

<v Doc>want, line things up, move them around. And so we use those tools for sort of

00:25:29.790 --> 00:25:33.750

<v Doc>planning our setup, right?

00:25:33.990 --> 00:25:39.570

<v Doc>And what else do we use? So we have that, that, we use PodPage to,

00:25:39.730 --> 00:25:44.730

<v Doc>that doesn't really count, but you can set up a guest injection form on PodPage,

00:25:44.770 --> 00:25:47.090

<v Doc>which I talked to Katie about.

00:25:47.870 --> 00:25:52.710

<v Doc>Paul said I got hair. Shut up, Paul. I talked to Katie about when we were at

00:25:52.710 --> 00:25:55.070

<v Doc>Kit, because we were dealing with some guest flow there.

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<v Doc>And I was like, you know, we should go ahead and just get a guest forum up on the site on pod page.

00:26:00.810 --> 00:26:04.550

<v Doc>So that way people can just come in and fill out the form, upload their headshot,

00:26:04.790 --> 00:26:07.830

<v Doc>get like a checklist sent to them the whole nine yards.

00:26:08.450 --> 00:26:11.870

<v Doc>So there's some really cool things that you can do for your show.

00:26:13.990 --> 00:26:19.330

<v Doc>And. Do you do anything from the producer side to say warm up to get ready,

00:26:19.370 --> 00:26:23.670

<v Doc>or is it just you like battery you ever ready, not the battery off the shoulder?

00:26:25.690 --> 00:26:26.970

<v Luis>I actually do.

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<v Doc>But if you got the battery off the show, the reference, you're old.

00:26:30.050 --> 00:26:31.750

<v Doc>I just wanted to let you know. Okay, go ahead, Luis. Sorry.

00:26:33.990 --> 00:26:39.070

<v Luis>Well, the asterisk is that, you know, it's, it's something that as a producer,

00:26:39.070 --> 00:26:42.590

<v Luis>once you have a run of show and you produce it,

00:26:42.710 --> 00:26:48.990

<v Luis>maybe let's say 110 times, like we have with the flow, you actually tend to

00:26:48.990 --> 00:26:54.230

<v Luis>have a flow already with the process, which is almost like driving a car.

00:26:54.230 --> 00:26:57.810

<v Luis>You know, like where you could just hop in and you already know what you're doing.

00:26:57.950 --> 00:27:00.210

<v Luis>You know, you just need to get to your destination.

00:27:01.050 --> 00:27:10.250

<v Luis>But at the same time, for me, I wake up or say like I start getting done like early and I wake up to.

00:27:11.709 --> 00:27:14.829

<v Luis>I do comedy. That's just what I do.

00:27:14.949 --> 00:27:21.029

<v Luis>I listen to audio comedy, and I wait for a track to actually,

00:27:21.029 --> 00:27:24.989

<v Luis>like, really get the tears coming out of my eyes.

00:27:25.109 --> 00:27:29.769

<v Luis>And once that happens, I actually shut it down so that I can resonate in that

00:27:29.769 --> 00:27:34.509

<v Luis>high, like, like, high energy, fun vibration.

00:27:34.909 --> 00:27:38.449

<v Luis>Because a lot of times what's happened to me is that I listen to another joke

00:27:38.449 --> 00:27:42.009

<v Luis>that's not as funny afterwards. and it kind of brings you down.

00:27:42.169 --> 00:27:45.829

<v Luis>So I kind of just get the RPMs high and just leave them there.

00:27:46.009 --> 00:27:51.249

<v Luis>And that's what I do on my productions and also my own live streams just to keep it more lively.

00:27:52.189 --> 00:27:56.729

<v Doc>That's super good. That's super good. I like the idea of getting into the flow.

00:27:56.929 --> 00:28:05.229

<v Doc>I normally just drink coffee, but, you know, there's zero to a hundred.

00:28:05.569 --> 00:28:08.609

<v Doc>However you do it is up to you. However you do it is up to you.

00:28:08.749 --> 00:28:12.969

<v Doc>This is super cool. Okay, so wait, Paul is in Melanotion, Melanotion,

00:28:13.229 --> 00:28:16.589

<v Doc>that is the weirdest thing I've ever said, Melanotion.

00:28:16.989 --> 00:28:19.749

<v Doc>Paul is in Melanote moving things around while I'm trying to talk,

00:28:19.889 --> 00:28:20.789

<v Doc>like stop messing with that.

00:28:21.829 --> 00:28:26.669

<v Doc>I looked over and I seen a little mouse go Paul right across the screen.

00:28:27.429 --> 00:28:31.389

<v Doc>Yeah, so that's one of the things that's cool about Melanote and Notion is that

00:28:31.389 --> 00:28:33.229

<v Doc>Mary Lou and I can work in it together.

00:28:33.229 --> 00:28:36.449

<v Doc>And in the middle of note we have myself paul louise

00:28:36.449 --> 00:28:43.029

<v Doc>katie um uh i believe jill or yeah but we're all in here just sort of moving

00:28:43.029 --> 00:28:47.069

<v Doc>things around which is super cool all right let's get into sort of the file

00:28:47.069 --> 00:28:50.169

<v Doc>management part because this is what blows people oh you can leave it there

00:28:50.169 --> 00:28:53.309

<v Doc>go ahead let's talk about this real quick so you see paul is in there well hold.

00:28:53.309 --> 00:28:53.669

<v Luis>On let me

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<v Doc>This is just our running show did you just substitute my whole face for a screen.

00:28:59.329 --> 00:29:04.409

<v Luis>No that's what i was trying to bring up the millenote but apparently that scene

00:29:04.409 --> 00:29:06.129

<v Luis>got messed up so we'll continue

00:29:06.129 --> 00:29:11.149

<v Doc>All right don't worry i have tutorials on millenote if not we could do a whole

00:29:11.149 --> 00:29:17.169

<v Doc>show on how we do it um because it is kind of a deeper conversation but that's

00:29:17.169 --> 00:29:21.549

<v Doc>super funny uh paul got me thinking about secret squirrel now i always used

00:29:21.549 --> 00:29:24.269

<v Doc>to say that oh my god that was one of my favorite thing.

00:29:24.389 --> 00:29:26.789

<v Doc>Stop moving them cursing around, Paul Deming. You're messing with me.

00:29:29.569 --> 00:29:33.129

<v Doc>One of the other things that's really big about this is the file management,

00:29:33.269 --> 00:29:34.889

<v Doc>bro. You're going to generate some files.

00:29:35.269 --> 00:29:38.489

<v Doc>Yesterday, I'm having a conversation with Brandon, right?

00:29:39.029 --> 00:29:47.269

<v Doc>As you know, he's one of our newest sort of Ecamm fam, and he's big into producing things.

00:29:47.409 --> 00:29:50.249

<v Doc>And so I was just showing him some things in zoom like

00:29:50.249 --> 00:29:54.549

<v Doc>how he can level his show up and which is crazy because his show is top level

00:29:54.549 --> 00:30:00.489

<v Doc>like it's kind of top level but brandon is like me it's each one teach one the

00:30:00.489 --> 00:30:05.469

<v Doc>next one got to be doper than the last and we were on the phone for on the zoom

00:30:05.469 --> 00:30:09.549

<v Doc>for about an hour and let's say 15 minutes.

00:30:10.773 --> 00:30:16.693

<v Doc>And I opened the Zoom file after, yo, that sucker was 40-something gigs because

00:30:16.693 --> 00:30:21.533

<v Doc>I was showing him how to do, you know, Zoom speaker switching and much cameras

00:30:21.533 --> 00:30:25.613

<v Doc>can come through, things of that nature. So it can get a little crazy.

00:30:25.813 --> 00:30:30.673

<v Doc>I'm going to give you two crazy suggestions if you have a smaller system but

00:30:30.673 --> 00:30:32.313

<v Doc>you want to keep these files on deck.

00:30:32.713 --> 00:30:39.633

<v Doc>After you finish your edit, I drag all of the OGs and the output that went to

00:30:39.633 --> 00:30:43.573

<v Doc>zoom into something called a shutter encoder.

00:30:44.273 --> 00:30:49.313

<v Doc>And I just say shutter encoder shrink these suckers, make them small because

00:30:49.313 --> 00:30:56.773

<v Doc>it will compress the files and maintain the majority of their original quality.

00:30:56.973 --> 00:31:02.273

<v Doc>But when I compressed that file that started out at 24 gigs for one particular

00:31:02.273 --> 00:31:05.153

<v Doc>file in general, when I was done with it, it was two.

00:31:05.913 --> 00:31:10.193

<v Doc>And I looked at them side by side and they're pretty good. So that's good enough

00:31:10.193 --> 00:31:13.273

<v Doc>for doing clips, good enough for doing social, things of that nature.

00:31:14.673 --> 00:31:18.693

<v Doc>So that's what I do when I get something like that, that kind of gets out of hand.

00:31:19.433 --> 00:31:25.893

<v Doc>You can easily make it smaller. If you're a set app user and you have permute,

00:31:26.213 --> 00:31:33.133

<v Doc>you can do almost as well just with compressing it to like an Apple TV format.

00:31:33.213 --> 00:31:37.613

<v Doc>I know what I'll do. I'll probably make a tutorial on how to do it in Setapp

00:31:37.613 --> 00:31:42.153

<v Doc>and throw it up on my channel because Shutter Encoder is a little bit more involved

00:31:42.153 --> 00:31:46.213

<v Doc>and you can get smaller, smaller, smaller, but Setapp can handle this bacon.

00:31:46.553 --> 00:31:50.633

<v Doc>Like, I mean, the Permute that comes with Setapp can handle it pretty good.

00:31:50.633 --> 00:31:52.533

<v Doc>It's just not as good as Shutter Encoder.

00:31:52.673 --> 00:31:56.793

<v Doc>But I'll show you how to do that because if you want to keep your files,

00:31:56.973 --> 00:31:59.973

<v Doc>but you just can't be filling up all these hard drives,

00:31:59.973 --> 00:32:02.673

<v Doc>just just set up a little script that on

00:32:02.673 --> 00:32:06.093

<v Doc>sunday when you ain't doing nothing it just goes through the folder and

00:32:06.093 --> 00:32:09.373

<v Doc>just chomp chomp chomp chomp chomp and then you know you're good to go throw

00:32:09.373 --> 00:32:14.893

<v Doc>the rest in the trash so that's one thing that i do um do you do anything differently

00:32:14.893 --> 00:32:23.493

<v Doc>as far as like getting your files prepped or storing them for future reference well.

00:32:23.493 --> 00:32:28.053

<v Luis>The prepping thing i need to start doing that shutter encoder fact,

00:32:28.233 --> 00:32:30.273

<v Luis>because that's for my own stuff.

00:32:30.713 --> 00:32:35.713

<v Luis>I actually have that program and should be using it. So that's just a great tip.

00:32:36.093 --> 00:32:39.793

<v Luis>But luckily when it comes to this production here on the flow,

00:32:40.013 --> 00:32:45.833

<v Luis>we also use another program or application called box and box is kind of like

00:32:45.833 --> 00:32:50.253

<v Luis>Dropbox or iCloud or another form of storage.

00:32:50.253 --> 00:32:54.733

<v Luis>But through Ecamm, we have a substantial amount.

00:32:55.333 --> 00:32:58.553

<v Luis>Unlimited, I believe. Yes, of course. And because of that,

00:32:59.529 --> 00:33:05.589

<v Luis>I haven't been dealing a lot with the compressing before I kind of like offload

00:33:05.589 --> 00:33:08.769

<v Luis>those files from my computer into box.

00:33:09.149 --> 00:33:16.369

<v Luis>But I do it kind of fast, so to speak, because as soon as I get those files

00:33:16.369 --> 00:33:21.669

<v Luis>and as a producer, another asterisk, 50 gigabytes of data.

00:33:22.249 --> 00:33:29.509

<v Luis>It's usually like my weekly, um, amount of consumption and data per show per week.

00:33:29.689 --> 00:33:33.829

<v Luis>So even if we're not sharing anything, when it comes to the files that I get

00:33:33.829 --> 00:33:38.509

<v Luis>from doc that are created here, standalone, the ones that I get from Katie or

00:33:38.509 --> 00:33:43.169

<v Luis>a guest 50 gigabytes of data weekly is like average.

00:33:43.369 --> 00:33:48.369

<v Luis>So once I've compiled all that, and then I take the files that I'm going to

00:33:48.369 --> 00:33:51.589

<v Luis>use. and I put them into the editor, my case, Final Cut Pro,

00:33:52.309 --> 00:33:56.289

<v Luis>Final Cut actually creates another copy of the original files.

00:33:56.429 --> 00:33:59.989

<v Luis>And that's the way that I have it set up so that I don't have to kind of be

00:33:59.989 --> 00:34:04.649

<v Luis>going back and forth. Or if I need to, you know, like move that project onto

00:34:04.649 --> 00:34:07.889

<v Luis>another computer, I'm taking everything that I need with it.

00:34:08.009 --> 00:34:12.089

<v Luis>And I don't need to rely on the original files on the computer.

00:34:12.309 --> 00:34:17.409

<v Luis>As soon as that happens, I don't need that extra 50 gigabytes on my machine.

00:34:17.409 --> 00:34:22.269

<v Luis>So I take it and I throw it right into box, you know, organized so that it's

00:34:22.269 --> 00:34:25.829

<v Luis>stored away and I just like offload it as soon as possible.

00:34:26.069 --> 00:34:31.129

<v Luis>So the time that I would use to kind of compress it to then upload,

00:34:31.289 --> 00:34:38.049

<v Luis>I'm just using it to upload directly to box because unlimited is just easier in that aspect.

00:34:38.269 --> 00:34:43.189

<v Luis>So that's what I've been doing. But for my own stuff, I need to definitely start

00:34:43.189 --> 00:34:48.029

<v Luis>using the Shudder Compressor because no Shudder Encoder to compress those files.

00:34:48.529 --> 00:34:54.989

<v Doc>And crazy, I just added another 18 terabyte drive to the Synology.

00:34:56.136 --> 00:35:01.916

<v Doc>Um, so I have more space and the funny man, it takes three days for that sucker to process.

00:35:02.436 --> 00:35:06.396

<v Doc>And I was leaving and I was like, I stuck it in and didn't grow yet.

00:35:06.636 --> 00:35:08.236

<v Doc>It is like, it has to do the calculation.

00:35:08.636 --> 00:35:14.416

<v Doc>And as full as that sucker is like over 50 terabytes, it took three days for

00:35:14.416 --> 00:35:17.096

<v Doc>it to process, but now I got more space and I'm good to go.

00:35:17.316 --> 00:35:20.136

<v Doc>And I think I'm going to buy one more just to make it faster.

00:35:20.516 --> 00:35:24.376

<v Doc>Um, the crazy thing is I did something that I'm a little terrified of,

00:35:24.476 --> 00:35:28.896

<v Doc>but I'm like, you know what i'm a risk taker i actually tried a renewed one

00:35:28.896 --> 00:35:32.796

<v Doc>because it was what was in stock but the renewed one came with a five-year warranty

00:35:32.796 --> 00:35:37.956

<v Doc>so i'm like all right all right western digital feed don't feel me now i ordered

00:35:37.956 --> 00:35:43.016

<v Doc>it direct from western digital though so that that made me feel a little better but.

00:35:43.016 --> 00:35:47.976

<v Luis>Here's another thing that you're putting it into a nas now yes we're using a

00:35:47.976 --> 00:35:51.976

<v Luis>like a refurb and it's the only drive yeah i don't

00:35:51.976 --> 00:35:55.376

<v Doc>Recommend that's why that's That's why I did it. I'm like, it comes from Western Digital.

00:35:56.176 --> 00:36:01.076

<v Doc>And what they said they did, right, is sometimes when you build a drive,

00:36:01.236 --> 00:36:02.276

<v Doc>I do understand circuitry.

00:36:02.416 --> 00:36:05.356

<v Doc>Sometimes you can get a bad circuit board. The platters passed all inspections.

00:36:05.616 --> 00:36:07.736

<v Doc>The circuit board was messed up. They just swapped the circuit board,

00:36:07.816 --> 00:36:11.976

<v Doc>which is actually easy to do. You can do it yourself with a little bit of solid skills.

00:36:11.976 --> 00:36:12.796

<v Luis>I have done it.

00:36:12.936 --> 00:36:15.556

<v Doc>Yeah, so with a little solid skills, you can do it yourself.

00:36:16.196 --> 00:36:18.256

<v Doc>But they say all they did was swap the circuit board.

00:36:18.356 --> 00:36:20.896

<v Doc>All right, cool, five-year warranty bet. I ordered it straight from Western

00:36:20.896 --> 00:36:27.116

<v Doc>Digital, and I got an 18-terabyte drive for $219 and some changes.

00:36:27.116 --> 00:36:27.816

<v Luis>Oh, that's good.

00:36:27.936 --> 00:36:31.156

<v Doc>It's right, Hollaback, young and what? So I said, all right, I'm going to risk it.

00:36:31.256 --> 00:36:32.296

<v Luis>Yeah, because that's the price of eight gigs.

00:36:32.556 --> 00:36:35.896

<v Doc>Right? So I'm going to let it see what goes, and then I'm going to throw it

00:36:35.896 --> 00:36:39.376

<v Doc>back, get an X-Wing, and put it in there just for speed. Because when you have

00:36:39.376 --> 00:36:40.876

<v Doc>more space, your NAS moves quicker.

00:36:41.176 --> 00:36:46.296

<v Doc>But, yeah, I do store a majority of my things on the NAS, and you will generate some files.

00:36:46.376 --> 00:36:49.436

<v Doc>Let's get that straight. it's a matter of if you're comfortable with

00:36:49.436 --> 00:36:52.696

<v Doc>re-downloading your source directly from youtube then you

00:36:52.696 --> 00:36:55.656

<v Doc>can throw it away when you're done some of us weirdos keep it

00:36:55.656 --> 00:36:58.316

<v Doc>all like i got all of the zoom calls all of

00:36:58.316 --> 00:37:01.736

<v Doc>the video joints from the very very beginning

00:37:01.736 --> 00:37:04.696

<v Doc>of doing this my show like five years

00:37:04.696 --> 00:37:07.696

<v Doc>ago so it's kind of crazy i should probably go

00:37:07.696 --> 00:37:10.616

<v Doc>back digital hoarders yeah i should go back and chop off

00:37:10.616 --> 00:37:14.056

<v Doc>the last three years and only keep the last two um which

00:37:14.056 --> 00:37:17.096

<v Doc>i started doing for more of the zoom stuff but the ecamm

00:37:17.096 --> 00:37:20.196

<v Doc>recordings i don't know there's something about something about mary that's

00:37:20.196 --> 00:37:26.356

<v Doc>got that going all right so let's talk about something real quick um what is

00:37:26.356 --> 00:37:32.576

<v Doc>it like being a producer like how does how that's so silly silly question but

00:37:32.576 --> 00:37:35.416

<v Doc>it makes sense in my head how does it make you feel.

00:37:37.078 --> 00:37:40.438

<v Luis>Well, that's funny because you said it's a silly question, but it's probably

00:37:40.438 --> 00:37:46.258

<v Luis>maybe my favorite so far because I absolutely love this, right?

00:37:46.438 --> 00:37:51.518

<v Luis>Like if I had nothing to do and I had all the time in the world,

00:37:51.578 --> 00:37:53.038

<v Luis>this is what I'd be doing.

00:37:53.218 --> 00:37:59.718

<v Luis>I'd be messing with this type of tech and just learning and nerding out because it's what I love to do.

00:37:59.718 --> 00:38:05.698

<v Luis>And I'm very lucky that I also get to make money doing the thing that I love,

00:38:05.838 --> 00:38:09.718

<v Luis>which is like they say, if you do what you love, you don't work a day in your life.

00:38:10.238 --> 00:38:15.738

<v Luis>And it seems a little funny, but that's how I feel when it comes to these productions,

00:38:15.778 --> 00:38:22.718

<v Luis>because like I said, I take my time and I start prepping hours ahead of time

00:38:22.718 --> 00:38:25.158

<v Luis>of the actual production because I love it.

00:38:25.158 --> 00:38:28.738

<v Luis>I would love to be in front of it and I'm doing all these little new ones and

00:38:28.738 --> 00:38:33.858

<v Luis>nine times out of 10, I'm switching something that nobody's even going to notice,

00:38:33.858 --> 00:38:36.118

<v Luis>but that's what I love about it. Right.

00:38:36.238 --> 00:38:40.978

<v Luis>And the fact that I get to do this and then produce a high quality production

00:38:40.978 --> 00:38:44.158

<v Luis>for somebody else and have them like,

00:38:44.318 --> 00:38:50.118

<v Luis>not only enjoy it, but enjoy the experience and the final product is something

00:38:50.118 --> 00:38:51.578

<v Luis>that's, you know, very viable.

00:38:52.058 --> 00:38:56.498

<v Luis>That's what makes it like the best for me. And that's why I'm like,

00:38:56.498 --> 00:38:59.918

<v Luis>they say a pig in mud because I'm really in my element.

00:39:00.238 --> 00:39:03.338

<v Doc>You know, I, I just met, uh, not just met.

00:39:03.498 --> 00:39:06.958

<v Doc>I saw again, I met her like maybe three or four conferences ago,

00:39:06.958 --> 00:39:12.118

<v Doc>but I met this lady, Maribel, uh, Puerto Rican girl, of course.

00:39:12.378 --> 00:39:17.478

<v Doc>Um, and her and her husband do a show on the fricking golf channel.

00:39:17.478 --> 00:39:20.538

<v Doc>And she's Louise for this show on the golf channel.

00:39:21.778 --> 00:39:29.018

<v Doc>And like it's when you see somebody who's like podcast producer on like the

00:39:29.018 --> 00:39:33.658

<v Doc>large scale I'm like yo there's a lot of space in this part people are looking

00:39:33.658 --> 00:39:38.838

<v Doc>for that lane and I had mentioned something in a video a couple days ago on

00:39:38.838 --> 00:39:40.278

<v Doc>my channel where I was talking about,

00:39:41.198 --> 00:39:46.938

<v Doc>maybe you come to grips of I don't have as much time to be in front of the camera

00:39:46.938 --> 00:39:49.718

<v Doc>but I'm super, super dope behind the camera.

00:39:49.898 --> 00:39:53.818

<v Doc>If you're an editor, if you're a planner, if you're a writer,

00:39:54.098 --> 00:39:57.758

<v Doc>if you're a producer, if you're an executive producer like Paul,

00:39:57.998 --> 00:40:02.878

<v Doc>who can get that ClickUp, Paul is like a freaking chef with ClickUp.

00:40:03.178 --> 00:40:09.238

<v Doc>I don't give Paul credit for much, but when it comes to ClickUp, he's like, sit down.

00:40:09.398 --> 00:40:11.758

<v Doc>Let me show y'all this. Blah, blah, blah, blah, boom, done.

00:40:12.018 --> 00:40:14.098

<v Doc>I present you ClickUp a la raunch.

00:40:14.438 --> 00:40:17.058

<v Doc>Like he got everything. Everything, the databases are insane.

00:40:17.838 --> 00:40:24.278

<v Doc>There's space for everybody out here, even if you like, I can't do the on camera

00:40:24.278 --> 00:40:25.718

<v Doc>thing. Like I can't talk.

00:40:26.278 --> 00:40:31.438

<v Doc>So there's space. And if you were to go into the LinkedIn event,

00:40:31.878 --> 00:40:33.598

<v Doc>there's choke people looking for you.

00:40:34.684 --> 00:40:39.144

<v Doc>And it's funny because I get, I'm going to, John, I'm not picking on you.

00:40:39.244 --> 00:40:42.024

<v Doc>I know you're brand new. You just maybe didn't think it was worth 15 bucks,

00:40:42.024 --> 00:40:45.184

<v Doc>but I want to say, maybe you have somebody like John that's saying,

00:40:45.184 --> 00:40:46.244

<v Doc>I want to do this. I want to do this.

00:40:46.324 --> 00:40:48.944

<v Doc>I want to do this, but it's going to cost me like 40 bucks a month.

00:40:49.624 --> 00:40:53.264

<v Doc>If you're really good at the graphics part, yo, you can make five,

00:40:53.404 --> 00:40:55.124

<v Doc>$600 a month, just making thumbnails.

00:40:55.924 --> 00:41:02.444

<v Doc>So that way you can add that 50 to your show and get down with the get down.

00:41:03.324 --> 00:41:07.744

<v Doc>Right. There's people like Paul who would be guest management,

00:41:08.024 --> 00:41:12.644

<v Doc>sending out emails, making sure it's called the Wrangler in production.

00:41:13.724 --> 00:41:17.544

<v Doc>Paul would be a good Wrangler. He's going to get the guest. He's going to call

00:41:17.544 --> 00:41:21.404

<v Doc>Chris and make sure that Chris and Jim show up 15 minutes ahead of time.

00:41:21.524 --> 00:41:26.184

<v Doc>He's going to email Chris and Jim on Wednesday and do the tech check and make

00:41:26.184 --> 00:41:28.584

<v Doc>sure that the Internet is good. Now, Jim lives in Atlanta.

00:41:28.804 --> 00:41:31.624

<v Doc>He got like 5,000 by 5,000 AT&T.

00:41:32.524 --> 00:41:36.824

<v Doc>Chris is in Georgia, but he got Peach Wireless. I don't know what he got,

00:41:36.984 --> 00:41:38.404

<v Doc>but it ain't the same as what Jim got.

00:41:39.564 --> 00:41:41.904

<v Doc>So Paul would call them, get them

00:41:41.904 --> 00:41:45.424

<v Doc>on the behind the scenes, make sure everything is like flowing, right?

00:41:45.624 --> 00:41:49.324

<v Doc>Check if they got any links. If the deal casters book tour is happening,

00:41:49.644 --> 00:41:51.144

<v Doc>he'll have all of that stuff, right?

00:41:51.244 --> 00:41:55.744

<v Doc>He's going to prep everything, get it together. And then he's going to pass that off to Luis.

00:41:55.964 --> 00:42:00.204

<v Doc>He's going to send the Lolo to say Katie and I.

00:42:00.824 --> 00:42:04.584

<v Doc>And he was going to be like, okay, this week when they come on,

00:42:04.704 --> 00:42:05.784

<v Doc>it's going to be Chris's birthday.

00:42:06.084 --> 00:42:10.044

<v Doc>You know, make sure you give him a shout out. And it turns out that Chris really

00:42:10.044 --> 00:42:11.124

<v Doc>loves the Detroit Lions.

00:42:11.264 --> 00:42:14.564

<v Doc>So if you want to throw that in there some kind of way, blah,

00:42:14.704 --> 00:42:18.284

<v Doc>blah, blah. Like why he liked Detroit Lions, I don't know. But whatever.

00:42:18.624 --> 00:42:22.624

<v Doc>Honolulu Blue, I'm going to let him have it. You know, so that's what somebody

00:42:22.624 --> 00:42:25.964

<v Doc>like Paul the Wrangler would do. There's a whole space for that.

00:42:26.284 --> 00:42:30.864

<v Doc>Like legit, there just is. I watch the people that do it for other people that kick conference.

00:42:31.064 --> 00:42:34.904

<v Doc>And we're talking like the big time. I know who the Paul is for Pat Flynn.

00:42:35.924 --> 00:42:41.484

<v Doc>I know who the Paul is for, um, for Nathan from, from kid.

00:42:41.764 --> 00:42:47.244

<v Doc>I know who the Paul is for Jay Klaus and for, you know, some of the other people that we work with.

00:42:48.024 --> 00:42:51.864

<v Doc>Right. So the biggest players, they have people like that.

00:42:51.964 --> 00:42:54.904

<v Doc>So if you're good at that type of stuff, put your folio together,

00:42:54.904 --> 00:42:58.564

<v Doc>you know, knock yourself out. There's a lot of room in this podcasting space

00:42:58.564 --> 00:43:00.404

<v Doc>that doesn't necessarily have to be in the front.

00:43:00.544 --> 00:43:05.144

<v Doc>And I would tell you, call Luis and like, you know, buy a session with him and

00:43:05.144 --> 00:43:08.884

<v Doc>have him show you how to remote produce because, yo, it's the money to be made.

00:43:09.224 --> 00:43:12.704

<v Doc>Like, if you got the time for it and the patience, well, I don't have the patience.

00:43:13.464 --> 00:43:19.064

<v Doc>Somebody just called me yesterday and was like, I got like 10 grand for you

00:43:19.064 --> 00:43:24.784

<v Doc>to produce half a season of these podcasts.

00:43:25.304 --> 00:43:27.524

<v Doc>I'm like, I can't do it. I ain't got the time.

00:43:28.364 --> 00:43:29.164

<v Doc>I wish I did.

00:43:30.644 --> 00:43:31.544

<v Luis>Send them my link.

00:43:31.784 --> 00:43:37.044

<v Doc>They want you to be here, unfortunately, because they don't understand how remote production works.

00:43:37.724 --> 00:43:40.244

<v Doc>And the other part is you're going to have to get your polale.

00:43:44.084 --> 00:43:47.844

<v Doc>I don't speak fluent Hawaiian, but I understand enough so I can handle it.

00:43:48.384 --> 00:43:51.544

<v Doc>But, you know, I'm telling you, it's out here. It is out here.

00:43:51.624 --> 00:43:53.364

<v Doc>I legit just had this conversation yesterday.

00:43:53.784 --> 00:43:55.964

<v Doc>I'm going to have to put them up with Brad because, you know,

00:43:56.044 --> 00:43:58.544

<v Doc>Brad got a new kid to feed now. So that's cool.

00:43:59.704 --> 00:44:07.184

<v Luis>Yeah, but anybody could understand this from the aspect of going to a concert, right?

00:44:07.364 --> 00:44:12.024

<v Luis>Anyone who's ever been to a concert, you go there for the talent on stage,

00:44:12.024 --> 00:44:16.884

<v Luis>which is the reason what brought you out of the house to go to this venue.

00:44:16.884 --> 00:44:22.244

<v Luis>But the thing is that there are so many people right there behind the scenes,

00:44:22.484 --> 00:44:25.484

<v Luis>the audio mixer and sound engineers,

00:44:26.224 --> 00:44:31.544

<v Luis>lighting, the grip crew, so many things that need to be done correctly behind

00:44:31.544 --> 00:44:34.964

<v Luis>the scenes so that you can get that high quality production.

00:44:34.964 --> 00:44:38.044

<v Luis>And they are just as important

00:44:38.044 --> 00:44:41.404

<v Luis>not more or less but just as important

00:44:41.404 --> 00:44:44.544

<v Luis>as the talent on stage that

00:44:44.544 --> 00:44:49.584

<v Luis>you're there paying the ticket for and if they were to not do their job it is

00:44:49.584 --> 00:44:54.624

<v Luis>like the lead singer you know trying to sing with like strep throat it is like

00:44:54.624 --> 00:44:59.904

<v Luis>it's not gonna happen and they're just as important except you will never know

00:44:59.904 --> 00:45:03.964

<v Luis>their names and those are the behind the scenes producers like myself.

00:45:04.204 --> 00:45:11.424

<v Doc>If I was going to go to see Taylor or Beehive, I would show up early and just

00:45:11.424 --> 00:45:13.364

<v Doc>like scope out all of the tech.

00:45:13.544 --> 00:45:16.564

<v Doc>I'd be scoping out the sound boxes, the whole nine yards.

00:45:16.724 --> 00:45:20.184

<v Doc>I'd be seeing how many flyers they have. You know, when they build a speaker

00:45:20.184 --> 00:45:23.124

<v Doc>array that hangs from the ceiling, those are called flyers.

00:45:23.324 --> 00:45:27.004

<v Doc>I'd be scoping out the flyers. I'd be talking to the guys about what type of

00:45:27.004 --> 00:45:28.664

<v Doc>wireless monitoring systems you're using.

00:45:28.844 --> 00:45:31.304

<v Doc>Like I would scope out the whole thing. And during the show,

00:45:31.504 --> 00:45:35.664

<v Doc>when you're supposed to be watching Tay do her thing, I'll be looking at the sound man.

00:45:35.864 --> 00:45:38.784

<v Doc>Be like, what he doing? Oh, he got an SSL? That's incredible.

00:45:39.044 --> 00:45:42.004

<v Doc>You know, that's what I would do because I've done it before.

00:45:42.684 --> 00:45:48.324

<v Doc>So I know for a fact when I'm going to go see Sumo here, I'm watching what the

00:45:48.324 --> 00:45:50.204

<v Doc>camera guys are doing because they're basically invisible.

00:45:50.724 --> 00:45:54.644

<v Doc>But they're getting these great shots for the overhead and I'm looking at how

00:45:54.644 --> 00:45:58.604

<v Doc>they're doing it and it's a Fujianon box lens, you know, 50 mil.

00:45:59.464 --> 00:46:02.564

<v Doc>It's just, anyway, Anyway, yeah, a hundred percent, so Louisa is on point there.

00:46:02.904 --> 00:46:06.304

<v Doc>All right, gang, we're gonna crack open some Q&A so you can get on.

00:46:06.964 --> 00:46:13.584

<v Doc>And I'll start with Patrick, because Patrick said, which headphones are you using, Doc?

00:46:14.164 --> 00:46:17.404

<v Doc>Patrick, are you related to Rich? Where's Rich?

00:46:19.204 --> 00:46:26.664

<v Doc>Anyway, I am using these. Paul put the link in the chat maybe, but these are just,

00:46:28.419 --> 00:46:33.459

<v Doc>generic KB ear. There you go. They're like 20 bones on Amazon.

00:46:33.939 --> 00:46:39.899

<v Doc>These are absolutely the best. Um, and I, I keep backup copies.

00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:44.799

<v Doc>There you go. Uh, no relation, rich, rich and Patrick are not related,

00:46:44.799 --> 00:46:47.939

<v Doc>but yeah, these are really good. Amazon 20 bucks.

00:46:48.219 --> 00:46:53.939

<v Doc>These are particular KB ears, but they're also sold to CBA, uh, CAA, sorry, CCA.

00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:58.619

<v Doc>Thank you. Let me get this straight. KB ear, CCA, uh, Lensoul,

00:46:59.419 --> 00:47:07.899

<v Doc>KZ, ZSN, they're all the same basic one driver, one base driver,

00:47:08.799 --> 00:47:11.179

<v Doc>sub $25 in-ear monitors.

00:47:11.399 --> 00:47:16.639

<v Doc>They're all good. They're basically the same, just probably two families that

00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:21.199

<v Doc>make like 60 different brands, but they're phenomenal and they're so cheap.

00:47:21.319 --> 00:47:24.319

<v Doc>And my favorite thing about these is the cables is replaceable.

00:47:24.319 --> 00:47:28.959

<v Doc>So if you do have a dog or cat or something that does something crazy to your

00:47:28.959 --> 00:47:32.279

<v Doc>doohickey, you can just pop it off, get a new cable.

00:47:32.419 --> 00:47:35.519

<v Doc>As a matter of fact, I have a new cable because this cable is starting to oxidize.

00:47:36.299 --> 00:47:41.039

<v Doc>And I just found out they came out with a brand new purple cable.

00:47:42.879 --> 00:47:47.379

<v Doc>It's like 30 bones. The cable costs more than the headset, but I'm that dude.

00:47:47.379 --> 00:47:50.819

<v Doc>So I'm fixing to buy the new purple cable because it's dope.

00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:56.659

<v Doc>I have backup ones back here yeah they're just incredible go ahead.

00:47:57.799 --> 00:48:01.039

<v Luis>Well i wanted to add to that because that is ideal

00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:03.959

<v Luis>when it comes to production to have a wired setup

00:48:03.959 --> 00:48:11.219

<v Luis>now me as a producer just asterisk these are wireless headphones but i'm using

00:48:11.219 --> 00:48:17.679

<v Luis>them in a wired manner so even though they're the apple airpods these are my

00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:22.019

<v Luis>older set that are actually not connected to any of my iCloud setups.

00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:26.839

<v Luis>They're only connected to this little transmitter that I have here that just

00:48:26.839 --> 00:48:31.999

<v Luis>has a standard, you know, um, headphone jack, and that's what I have connected.

00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:35.859

<v Luis>So anything that I connect that to goes directly to these wireless,

00:48:36.139 --> 00:48:39.479

<v Luis>which is just a feature that I have to cater to my son.

00:48:39.699 --> 00:48:45.099

<v Luis>But if it wasn't for that case, I'd be using a wired headset because that's

00:48:45.099 --> 00:48:49.779

<v Luis>what's ideal when it comes to being a guest and also your own productions.

00:48:50.099 --> 00:48:54.199

<v Doc>Yeah. And one thing that's bad about AirPods is beautiful as they are and as good as they sound.

00:48:54.931 --> 00:48:58.411

<v Doc>All you need to do is be in the middle of your show and like your kid come in

00:48:58.411 --> 00:49:01.351

<v Doc>and pick up your phone and it just jumped over to your phone.

00:49:01.611 --> 00:49:05.271

<v Doc>You know what I mean? Or, you know, maybe you hit the mouse and accidentally

00:49:05.271 --> 00:49:09.791

<v Doc>wake up your secondary computer or your iPad or something and the sound would jump over there.

00:49:09.991 --> 00:49:13.071

<v Doc>Then you're like absolutely lost. So yeah, I don't normally recommend it,

00:49:13.091 --> 00:49:18.171

<v Doc>but that thing that Luis has, I actually have in my, I have in my alpaca, my day pack,

00:49:18.411 --> 00:49:22.431

<v Doc>because when I fly, I just plug that sucker into the back of the headset so

00:49:22.431 --> 00:49:26.651

<v Doc>I can listen to whatever's on the back of the airplane seat if i don't you know

00:49:26.651 --> 00:49:29.491

<v Doc>in the beginning stages where you can't get your ipad out or it's up in the

00:49:29.491 --> 00:49:30.731

<v Doc>ceiling or something yeah and.

00:49:30.731 --> 00:49:35.491

<v Luis>Just to clarify like these airpods are not connected to any other device so

00:49:35.491 --> 00:49:40.351

<v Luis>they won't automatically jump to anything they only have like eyes or communication

00:49:40.351 --> 00:49:45.671

<v Luis>for that device that's why i use it because the only communication is to that

00:49:45.671 --> 00:49:48.691

<v Luis>dongle yeah that's the way that i bypass it

00:49:48.691 --> 00:49:52.351

<v Doc>100 percent now um while we waiting for your questions, I do want to remind

00:49:52.351 --> 00:49:56.511

<v Doc>you, we do have a free podcasting course. Paul did put the link in the chat.

00:49:56.731 --> 00:49:59.831

<v Doc>Make sure you go and check that out. If you're just getting started,

00:50:00.531 --> 00:50:04.431

<v Doc>we're going to, it's a living course. So we're constantly updated when something

00:50:04.431 --> 00:50:07.111

<v Doc>fresh and new comes out, like we go to town with that.

00:50:07.291 --> 00:50:12.271

<v Doc>And it's, it's really, it's, it's weird to say this, but it's good.

00:50:14.251 --> 00:50:18.351

<v Doc>It's weird to say that about something that you made, but it really is good.

00:50:18.351 --> 00:50:21.051

<v Doc>And I like the fact that it's a living course.

00:50:21.191 --> 00:50:26.131

<v Doc>So that does allow us to constantly update it so we can keep you going on what's going on.

00:50:26.331 --> 00:50:30.111

<v Doc>And then again, open for questions. Now, if you have any questions,

00:50:30.271 --> 00:50:31.071

<v Doc>please throw them in the chat.

00:50:31.511 --> 00:50:36.611

<v Doc>I think another thing that's just really important to suss out is how important

00:50:36.611 --> 00:50:39.751

<v Doc>doing your podcast on YouTube is right now.

00:50:41.022 --> 00:50:48.662

<v Doc>It's, it's phenomenal. Like more and more and more, I go into those search boxy

00:50:48.662 --> 00:50:55.042

<v Doc>there and whether it's Gemini or, you know, Google's new AI search or perplexity,

00:50:55.262 --> 00:51:00.022

<v Doc>it's snatching these results basically from content that's produced.

00:51:00.922 --> 00:51:08.082

<v Doc>It's, it's really, really helpful. And so if you are an expert like our buddy

00:51:08.082 --> 00:51:12.902

<v Doc>rich graham is an expert at getting say premiums for your business right and

00:51:12.902 --> 00:51:17.942

<v Doc>so we're doing you know we're buying stuff for camp right now so paul katie jill,

00:51:18.662 --> 00:51:22.582

<v Doc>caleb and i we've been looking at various things right like say you wanted to buy,

00:51:23.422 --> 00:51:28.162

<v Doc>a bunch of branded bottles like this hydrate spark with the little led that

00:51:28.162 --> 00:51:32.162

<v Doc>reminds you when to drink and you're like, I want to get, you know,

00:51:32.302 --> 00:51:33.782

<v Doc>XYZ premiums or whatever.

00:51:34.002 --> 00:51:41.022

<v Doc>All of that content that Rich produces now is a larger portion of the search

00:51:41.022 --> 00:51:42.762

<v Doc>diaspora than ever before.

00:51:43.262 --> 00:51:51.082

<v Doc>So because he's producing video content and shorts on his, on his Instagram,

00:51:52.242 --> 00:51:55.022

<v Doc>it's funny. Is this still Instagram when it's Rich Graham?

00:51:56.302 --> 00:52:00.282

<v Doc>Is it Instagram Graham? Is it a Graham Graham? Anyway, it's Insta Rich.

00:52:00.482 --> 00:52:02.682

<v Doc>It's Insta Rich. I wish I was.

00:52:04.922 --> 00:52:09.442

<v Doc>But those results are going to come up because Rich is actually doing that work.

00:52:09.642 --> 00:52:13.262

<v Doc>He's going to come up higher than some of the other people who still think that,

00:52:13.382 --> 00:52:16.962

<v Doc>oh, I don't need to do social media because I don't like social media because it's too political.

00:52:17.322 --> 00:52:22.062

<v Doc>Like those guys are going to get smoked. So your feelings about the current

00:52:22.062 --> 00:52:24.922

<v Doc>administration or the former ain't got nothing to do with it.

00:52:24.922 --> 00:52:28.342

<v Doc>But if you're not out here producing because you quote unquote don't like social

00:52:28.342 --> 00:52:31.542

<v Doc>media, which is weird because YouTube is not really a social media,

00:52:31.762 --> 00:52:36.602

<v Doc>you're missing opportunity that's incredible.

00:52:36.842 --> 00:52:41.242

<v Doc>I was looking for stuff yesterday and I'm surprised at how many times it shows

00:52:41.242 --> 00:52:45.402

<v Doc>me a YouTube video as the source for where that answer came from.

00:52:45.822 --> 00:52:51.342

<v Doc>It's kind of incredible, like incredible, super cool.

00:52:52.142 --> 00:52:58.362

<v Doc>And I'm just comparing Kotopaxi backpacks because I need a new pack for travel

00:52:58.362 --> 00:53:02.462

<v Doc>for Japan because my tech bag is just getting a little bit heavy.

00:53:03.619 --> 00:53:06.259

<v Doc>And I was like, let me go check out these new Cotopaxi ones because they're

00:53:06.259 --> 00:53:07.899

<v Doc>just made out of recyclable materials.

00:53:08.139 --> 00:53:11.859

<v Doc>And, you know, me, I'm also all in on Merino stuff. So I'm seeing if anybody,

00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.319

<v Doc>you know, recently has stepped up to Unbound because Unbound is expensive,

00:53:15.339 --> 00:53:17.779

<v Doc>but it's the best. I'm like, anybody can step to that.

00:53:18.399 --> 00:53:22.299

<v Doc>So I did a little Google search and gave me some stuff and it got Quince got

00:53:22.299 --> 00:53:25.399

<v Doc>high praises and Quince shirts of 40 bucks instead of 100.

00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:28.579

<v Doc>So I tried them and they're good.

00:53:29.379 --> 00:53:33.399

<v Doc>They're not Unbound. So I'm going to stick to the 100 because I ain't that broke.

00:53:33.619 --> 00:53:37.479

<v Doc>But if you need a way to slide in, yo, actually I am that broke,

00:53:37.619 --> 00:53:38.719

<v Doc>but I just like good stuff.

00:53:39.839 --> 00:53:42.919

<v Doc>If you like the way to slide in, Quince is a good, I can recommend,

00:53:42.959 --> 00:53:44.819

<v Doc>I can recommend to people Quince is dope.

00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:48.019

<v Doc>I will always say to them that my Unbound is better. It's softer.

00:53:48.019 --> 00:53:50.259

<v Doc>It doesn't have that little shine to it.

00:53:50.619 --> 00:53:54.519

<v Doc>But if you needed a good travel shirt that you could wear like three days and

00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:59.039

<v Doc>not stink, no matter how funky you are, I can tell you Quince is good for 40 bucks.

00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:04.919

<v Doc>Actually, yeah, it was $38. So let's call it 40. Like these results are coming

00:54:04.919 --> 00:54:06.499

<v Doc>from the content that people made.

00:54:08.579 --> 00:54:10.539

<v Luis>So you got to make this content,

00:54:10.739 --> 00:54:16.159

<v Doc>Fam. Like you are missing the boat, like still tripping on stuff that ain't

00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:17.139

<v Doc>got nothing to do with you.

00:54:17.319 --> 00:54:19.579

<v Doc>I don't like the sound of my voice.

00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.019

<v Doc>We don't like the sound of your voice neither, but I need the info you got.

00:54:23.419 --> 00:54:25.699

<v Doc>How about that? How about that? Let me come hard.

00:54:26.939 --> 00:54:30.939

<v Luis>I bet you didn't like the sound of all of your teachers' voices growing up in

00:54:30.939 --> 00:54:34.119

<v Luis>school. I bet you some of them got on your phone. I'll tell you right now, when I be trying to add

00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:38.699

<v Doc>Up these charts, I got, I'm like, Miss Rosen, you finally came through with your coffee breath.

00:54:39.479 --> 00:54:42.919

<v Doc>Now I need her. Before I was mad, like, I don't need to learn this mess.

00:54:43.299 --> 00:54:47.579

<v Doc>You know, I'm over here calculating spatial distances or whatever and shipping

00:54:47.579 --> 00:54:51.099

<v Doc>containers and all this other mess I needed to do in order to do my Doc Pops.

00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:56.379

<v Doc>And when I started calculating, you know, like the shapes and sizes of microphones,

00:54:56.599 --> 00:55:00.179

<v Doc>I could smell Miss Rosen's coffee and cool mouths all up in my face.

00:55:00.179 --> 00:55:03.319

<v Doc>But it works you know what i mean with ecamm

00:55:03.319 --> 00:55:06.179

<v Doc>for with ecamm for

00:55:06.179 --> 00:55:10.759

<v Doc>does it generate zoom links to email to show guests i think you meant for ecamm

00:55:10.759 --> 00:55:14.119

<v Doc>for zoom gary you can't be missing words with like you know your boy can't read

00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:19.419

<v Doc>all right i got you gary um you when you're in i can't do it right now because

00:55:19.419 --> 00:55:24.579

<v Doc>we're live but in the zoom box on ecamm when you say generate a meeting,

00:55:25.139 --> 00:55:29.339

<v Doc>it will generate the zoom link and then you can text or email that to your guests.

00:55:29.479 --> 00:55:34.959

<v Doc>You can also schedule your meetings on the zoom.com where you normally would

00:55:34.959 --> 00:55:40.839

<v Doc>do your scheduling. And then that auto populates the third button in Ecamm that says, okay.

00:55:42.635 --> 00:55:47.615

<v Doc>Schedule. I had to think about it because I always forget to look there.

00:55:47.895 --> 00:55:51.695

<v Doc>Me and Paul, we'd be laughing last week, right? Last week, I was just about

00:55:51.695 --> 00:55:53.535

<v Doc>to text Paul, Paul, where's the hell the link to the thing?

00:55:53.795 --> 00:55:56.275

<v Doc>And then Paul was about to text me, where's the link to the thing?

00:55:56.495 --> 00:55:59.535

<v Doc>And both of us realized all you can do is press schedule.

00:56:00.335 --> 00:56:05.455

<v Doc>It's right there. When you click on the schedule box, it populates from the

00:56:05.455 --> 00:56:08.155

<v Doc>meetings that you set up on zoom.com.

00:56:08.495 --> 00:56:12.715

<v Doc>And we both forgot about it because normally the two meetings that we do,

00:56:12.935 --> 00:56:18.195

<v Doc>which is one coming up in about 60 minutes, it was my Tuesday stream and my Saturday stream.

00:56:18.335 --> 00:56:22.875

<v Doc>Those links don't change. So we have those set up and then the one that we use for class.

00:56:23.875 --> 00:56:28.295

<v Doc>And so we were doing a Ecamm Tech Talk and it had been a minute because I've

00:56:28.295 --> 00:56:30.935

<v Doc>been traveling and both of us kind of forgot what the link is,

00:56:31.155 --> 00:56:32.375

<v Doc>but it's in the schedule button.

00:56:32.575 --> 00:56:37.695

<v Doc>So Gary, absolutely just go to schedule them how you normally schedule them

00:56:37.695 --> 00:56:41.355

<v Doc>with the website, or if you just want to do an ad hoc meeting,

00:56:41.575 --> 00:56:44.635

<v Doc>you can click on new meeting and it just opens.

00:56:44.835 --> 00:56:48.915

<v Doc>And then I, I tell you what, that's how I do my calls nowadays.

00:56:49.295 --> 00:56:51.655

<v Doc>When people say, Hey, you want to jump in a real car to do something quick,

00:56:51.755 --> 00:56:54.715

<v Doc>quick. I hit the, he can't presume open new meeting.

00:56:54.855 --> 00:56:57.655

<v Doc>And I send them a link like super simple.

00:56:58.155 --> 00:57:00.615

<v Doc>Brandon is just like, Hey man, I want to check out something with my sound.

00:57:00.775 --> 00:57:02.675

<v Doc>I need to understand how the sound flow works.

00:57:02.855 --> 00:57:05.795

<v Doc>Boom. Here you go and in seconds he calls

00:57:05.795 --> 00:57:08.595

<v Doc>in and then we were like wait a minute this is backwards in order

00:57:08.595 --> 00:57:11.515

<v Doc>for you to hear this you should send me the link okay okay we

00:57:11.515 --> 00:57:14.775

<v Doc>hung up real quick he says me a link we jump on and then

00:57:14.775 --> 00:57:18.135

<v Doc>we just knock it out and i showed him how to do some sort of production stuff

00:57:18.135 --> 00:57:22.755

<v Doc>this is like it's really good i do all of my calls but you can't presume now

00:57:22.755 --> 00:57:28.335

<v Doc>gary so uh first of all fantastic question and definitely just go to town have

00:57:28.335 --> 00:57:31.555

<v Doc>fun one thing i must say before i forget,

00:57:32.275 --> 00:57:35.875

<v Doc>But people, I'm going to go Island Ivers here for a moment.

00:57:36.115 --> 00:57:38.955

<v Doc>The most important part of this, practice.

00:57:39.395 --> 00:57:41.215

<v Doc>We talking about practice.

00:57:43.355 --> 00:57:48.555

<v Doc>Send a link to Chris or Rich or Luis or somebody and practice.

00:57:48.815 --> 00:57:54.075

<v Doc>And Luis mentioned it earlier. You need to know what it feels like on both sides of the equation.

00:57:54.155 --> 00:57:58.755

<v Doc>You need to know what it feels like for you to be running that Zoom call,

00:57:58.895 --> 00:58:02.995

<v Doc>producing that show. You also need to know what it feels like to be a guest at that show.

00:58:03.675 --> 00:58:08.295

<v Doc>If you want, you can just put a link in the community and be like,

00:58:08.395 --> 00:58:11.515

<v Doc>hey, fam, I want to practice hosting guests in Zoom.

00:58:12.135 --> 00:58:15.435

<v Doc>Here's a link. Just post it up. Sit back and relax.

00:58:15.895 --> 00:58:19.215

<v Doc>And within a couple of minutes, somebody like Matt would be like,

00:58:19.395 --> 00:58:21.755

<v Doc>I ain't got nothing to do. Let's come through. Right.

00:58:22.135 --> 00:58:26.515

<v Doc>And then vice versa. I need to feel like what it feels like to guest.

00:58:26.655 --> 00:58:29.215

<v Doc>Can one of you guys fire up a meeting and send me a link?

00:58:29.795 --> 00:58:33.215

<v Doc>Yo, Matt's going to come through. He's going to have these little sticks like this.

00:58:34.215 --> 00:58:35.495

<v Doc>And then you're going to be like.

00:58:38.278 --> 00:58:43.878

<v Doc>So, you know, like it's so simple, family, the ECAM community. This is why we love them.

00:58:44.118 --> 00:58:48.878

<v Doc>Everybody is so willing to help. If you just said, hey, I got some time on Saturday

00:58:48.878 --> 00:58:50.058

<v Doc>from this time to this time.

00:58:50.258 --> 00:58:53.618

<v Doc>I need to practice my Zoom. People would be like, bet, let's go.

00:58:54.598 --> 00:58:59.118

<v Doc>Paul and Brand Joe have been doing the random practice sessions in the Facebook group.

00:58:59.938 --> 00:59:02.978

<v Doc>So just reach out if you need some practice, fam. You really,

00:59:03.118 --> 00:59:04.958

<v Doc>really, you really, really got to do it.

00:59:05.958 --> 00:59:07.878

<v Doc>And Matt would be like, hey, Matt, we need your help. I went,

00:59:08.038 --> 00:59:10.058

<v Doc>okay, I ain't finished a sentence yet.

00:59:11.258 --> 00:59:14.538

<v Doc>This legit happened last week, by the way. Hey, Matt, we need your help.

00:59:14.638 --> 00:59:16.578

<v Doc>Okay, whatever you want. Wait a minute, what do you want?

00:59:17.298 --> 00:59:21.458

<v Doc>That was exactly what happened, and Katie will prove it. Katie has my back.

00:59:21.858 --> 00:59:23.758

<v Doc>Matt's like, I'm down. I was like, Matt, you didn't even know.

00:59:23.818 --> 00:59:24.998

<v Doc>We could have told you to stole a car.

00:59:25.178 --> 00:59:27.978

<v Doc>He was like, whatever, Ecamm needs my help. I'm there. He was like,

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<v Doc>Matt Man. Hi, I'm Matt Man.

00:59:32.938 --> 00:59:36.498

<v Doc>That one could be used. Thank you, Matt. That one, I like that one. Thank you, Matt.

00:59:36.658 --> 00:59:41.318

<v Doc>I love you, bro. But yeah, like legit, that's how the ECAM community is.

00:59:41.738 --> 00:59:44.838

<v Doc>Matt, Mike, Ridge, Paul, like everybody who's hanging out.

00:59:44.918 --> 00:59:48.718

<v Doc>If you guys got questions, if you're new to this, just reach in the community

00:59:48.718 --> 00:59:51.318

<v Doc>and be like, fam, I need, I throw up the Matt signal.

00:59:52.378 --> 00:59:54.138

<v Doc>I'm going to beat this pun to death, yo.

00:59:55.940 --> 01:00:00.500

<v Doc>To the Matt-mobile. Let's go. Sorry, Matt. I'm going to leave you alone.

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<v Luis>Those are all good.

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<v Doc>Sorry, Matt. I'm going to stop. I can't believe I'm spouting DC stuff because I'm Marvel all day.

01:00:07.740 --> 01:00:11.340

<v Doc>I hate DC, but it's for Matt. So I'll just let the love go.

01:00:13.120 --> 01:00:16.780

<v Doc>Is that make sure we got everything. No, always waiting until at least 30 seconds

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<v Doc>to the show is much better.

01:00:18.580 --> 01:00:21.820

<v Doc>Aaron, what'd you say? What are you telling Paul? Aaron, you scared me.

01:00:23.620 --> 01:00:27.300

<v Doc>Thank you. Thank you, Gary. I appreciate you, bro. If you have any questions

01:00:27.300 --> 01:00:30.640

<v Doc>at all, please people just drop your, drop your questions in.

01:00:31.040 --> 01:00:35.680

<v Doc>Um, we're down to help this video podcast and stuff does not have to be scary.

01:00:35.860 --> 01:00:38.920

<v Doc>It does not have to be complicated. And Chris mentioned something way up in

01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:42.640

<v Doc>the chat talking about, um, he said, just being smart.

01:00:43.100 --> 01:00:46.480

<v Doc>Uh, Chris mentioned something way up in the chat talking about these headphones.

01:00:46.500 --> 01:00:50.200

<v Doc>It's really about clarity and doesn't have to be expensive.

01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:53.440

<v Doc>And I say, that's the same thing about doing a podcast in

01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:56.640

<v Doc>general uh chris is right with decent

01:00:56.640 --> 01:00:59.640

<v Doc>lighting in your phone you can produce something cool

01:00:59.640 --> 01:01:02.660

<v Doc>so don't overthink it you kind

01:01:02.660 --> 01:01:07.160

<v Doc>of have to just press buttons and see where you are all the rest of this stuff

01:01:07.160 --> 01:01:12.540

<v Doc>is learnable but overthinking it doesn't learn you anything except for how to

01:01:12.540 --> 01:01:17.720

<v Doc>take ibuprofen from the headache that's about it that's literally about it because

01:01:17.720 --> 01:01:20.340

<v Doc>all of that pent up frustration just becomes a headache.

01:01:20.600 --> 01:01:23.260

<v Doc>And so just avoid the headache and just make something instead.

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<v Doc>That's the answer. That is the answer. Okay, guys, I wanted to remind you that

01:01:28.460 --> 01:01:32.800

<v Doc>this show and pretty much the last couple of episodes have been sponsored by Shure.

01:01:32.980 --> 01:01:39.620

<v Doc>So make sure you go and check out Shure, S-H-U-R-E.com. That's S-H-U-R-E.com.

01:01:39.740 --> 01:01:41.540

<v Doc>We use them, all our microphones.

01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:46.120

<v Doc>Most of the E-C-A-M fam is rocking Shure microphones, and we just absolutely love it.

01:01:46.520 --> 01:01:48.660

<v Doc>And of course, if you want to reach out to us.

01:01:49.684 --> 01:01:56.744

<v Doc>You can reach out to us at flow.ecam.com. That's F-L-O-W dot E-C-A-M-M dot com.

01:01:56.844 --> 01:02:01.864

<v Doc>And that will allow you to get your podcast wherever your podcast getting is got.

01:02:02.724 --> 01:02:07.044

<v Doc>And just a reminder, we do host this on Captivate. So go and check out the flow.

01:02:07.164 --> 01:02:09.784

<v Doc>You can leave us a guest request. You can ask questions.

01:02:10.084 --> 01:02:13.844

<v Doc>You can leave us voicemail, leave reviews. It's all there. And pretty soon,

01:02:13.864 --> 01:02:18.024

<v Doc>we're going to put the guest checklist so you can go and sign up to be a guest.

01:02:18.604 --> 01:02:24.384

<v Doc>That's cool. any last any last um any last minute things louise man i swear

01:02:24.384 --> 01:02:25.984

<v Doc>i speak english i promise you people.

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<v Luis>Because i i i want to

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<v Luis>add this in so that we don't make a third episode right of the production which

01:02:34.304 --> 01:02:40.124

<v Luis>is excuse me how we actually transfer our files now this is the last little

01:02:40.124 --> 01:02:47.204

<v Luis>nugget yes because uh doc introduced me to a new program that since has been

01:02:47.204 --> 01:02:49.364

<v Luis>my go-to and it's called blip

01:02:49.684 --> 01:02:55.324

<v Luis>Now blip is a like standalone program that works on your computer and it's allowed

01:02:55.324 --> 01:03:02.744

<v Luis>doc and Katie to transfer these big, massive files directly to my computer in a matter of minutes.

01:03:02.744 --> 01:03:09.064

<v Luis>It really tries to utilize your bandwidth and your high speed internet as much

01:03:09.064 --> 01:03:15.684

<v Luis>as possible. And I'm able to download a file from doc who's in Hawaii and around the half an hour.

01:03:16.224 --> 01:03:20.924

<v Luis>So he doesn't have to like upload it to another system like box.

01:03:21.064 --> 01:03:25.864

<v Luis>And then I have to then wait for it to process and then download it myself so

01:03:25.864 --> 01:03:28.184

<v Luis>that then I can start editing with blip.

01:03:28.344 --> 01:03:33.084

<v Luis>I'm getting these files directly on my computer in less than an hour.

01:03:33.284 --> 01:03:37.904

<v Luis>And I'm talking about 15 to 20 gigabytes files.

01:03:38.184 --> 01:03:42.364

<v Luis>And sometimes I've gotten them in minutes. So it depends on the internet,

01:03:42.364 --> 01:03:48.524

<v Luis>but I have to say, guys check it out it's super easy to use you just sign up

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<v Luis>with your email and pretty soon you'll be blipping files left and right

01:03:52.404 --> 01:03:55.344

<v Doc>Blipping is the new verb

01:03:55.344 --> 01:04:00.964

<v Doc>uh i think if i understand the way it works is when you're sending a file through

01:04:00.964 --> 01:04:04.204

<v Doc>something like dropbox or google drive or whatever you still have the overhead

01:04:04.204 --> 01:04:08.884

<v Doc>of the browser and the graphics and all of that http protocol it takes a little

01:04:08.884 --> 01:04:13.484

<v Doc>bit longer blip uses something that's known as nttp protocol it doesn't have

01:04:13.484 --> 01:04:15.124

<v Doc>any imagery is just raw numbers.

01:04:15.624 --> 01:04:20.164

<v Doc>So when you don't prettify the packets, it's quicker. So it just flies.

01:04:20.404 --> 01:04:24.584

<v Doc>It absolutely flies. Oh my God, it's so good. So go ahead and check out Blip.

01:04:24.744 --> 01:04:26.864

<v Doc>Not sponsored, but dope AF nonetheless.

01:04:27.564 --> 01:04:31.484

<v Doc>Autofocus. That's what AF means, autofocus. I forgot there's an Ecamm show.

01:04:35.484 --> 01:04:38.324

<v Doc>Matt said that's blipping awesome.

01:04:38.784 --> 01:04:45.244

<v Doc>See, he got the power of Madman and the jokes of Robin. Ha ha ha ha.

01:04:47.434 --> 01:04:51.494

<v Doc>Holy blipping, Batman. Wait, holy blipping, Batman.

01:04:53.434 --> 01:04:57.294

<v Doc>Oh, camp is going to be so fun. I'm buying this dude a cape and some glasses.

01:04:57.594 --> 01:05:00.694

<v Doc>We're going to have Matt walking around with a cape the whole time at camp.

01:05:01.634 --> 01:05:05.294

<v Doc>Wait, Paul, you need to throw up a link for camp just because y'all still got

01:05:05.294 --> 01:05:07.134

<v Doc>time to sign up. But y'all got a lot of time.

01:05:07.274 --> 01:05:10.314

<v Doc>Y'all need to stop clowning because I want to hear it. Nobody told me about

01:05:10.314 --> 01:05:12.054

<v Doc>camp. It seems so much fun.

01:05:12.274 --> 01:05:15.054

<v Doc>I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it.

01:05:15.054 --> 01:05:22.354

<v Luis>And if Paul could drop the link to Daniel's course for live producers,

01:05:22.354 --> 01:05:26.914

<v Luis>because he just did it and you have availability to watch the replay.

01:05:27.134 --> 01:05:32.374

<v Luis>So that's something else that's also good. If you're looking to start being

01:05:32.374 --> 01:05:35.654

<v Luis>a remote producer for somebody else and you're looking to get into this,

01:05:35.754 --> 01:05:36.894

<v Luis>something good to check out.

01:05:37.134 --> 01:05:40.374

<v Doc>There you go. There you go. There you have it.

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<v Doc>Family, thank you for watching the flow. And you know what we say around here.

01:05:45.594 --> 01:05:49.114

<v Doc>I just, I answered you, Aaron. It only moves media. It does not cloud storage.

01:05:49.514 --> 01:05:53.514

<v Doc>So that's why it's free. Because otherwise it would be costly.

01:05:53.914 --> 01:05:57.474

<v Doc>But yeah, thank you guys for coming through. I appreciate all,

01:05:57.694 --> 01:06:02.394

<v Doc>all, all of the times you guys show up and help us, help you, help yourself.

01:06:04.354 --> 01:06:08.374

<v Doc>It sounded good for like a half a second. And then it just went all the way off the tracks.

01:06:09.474 --> 01:06:13.714

<v Doc>Thank you guys. You know what we say around here? Flow writers! Out!

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