The Flow: Episode 104 - The Ultimate Video Podcast Workflow with Ecamm & Capsho

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<v Katie>Happy tuesday i was gonna say a little hot flow riders but my brain got stuck

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<v Doc>I feel i feel like you i could hear you typing so i figured maybe i needed to jump in with that.

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<v Katie>Intro no what i was i was trying to say hi to my other brother daryl because

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<v Katie>daryl popped up in the chat but then my dyslexic fingers just did what it wanted

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<v Katie>to do it didn't come out right so i'm gonna stop typing now anyway welcome to

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<v Katie>the flow i am your co-host doc rock along with my awesome co-rock co-host oh

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<v Doc>Co-rock okay that might be my new favorite thing i am your co-rock katie or

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<v Doc>hey everyone it's katie this is usually my intro.

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<v Katie>Oh my god oh this is

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<v Katie>gonna be great see what happens when we let ash come and hang out

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<v Katie>with us today i know i'm excited we have something super epic

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<v Katie>to show you um i don't know for people who

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<v Katie>watch me on my other podcast um which is

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<v Katie>creators unstuck i do a majority of my processing after the fact with capsule

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<v Katie>so today we're going to talk about capsule we're going to introduce you to that

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<v Katie>and ash and i have something fun that we've been cooking up uh in the kitchen

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<v Katie>like stir fry like me goes so we got something to share with you today.

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<v Katie>So yeah, without further ado, Katie, you want to do an intro?

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<v Doc>Yeah, yeah. So if you haven't met Ash yet, Ash is the co-founder and head of

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<v Doc>product at CapShow, which is one of our favorite tools.

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<v Doc>It's an AI-based tool. And he's also the co-host of the NFL podcast,

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<v Doc>Fourth Down and Under, where he shares his avid love of and international perspective on the NFL.

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<v Doc>He's a lifelong entrepreneur and creative, and he loves exploring weird and

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<v Doc>wonderful opportunities that intersect between AI, entrepreneurship,

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<v Doc>and creative expression.

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<v Doc>He's just all around fun. And every time we're on a call with him,

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<v Doc>it's the best. So I'm really excited for today.

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<v Katie>Oh my God. Weird perspectives is funny because I don't know if he's saying that

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<v Katie>he likes it or he's calling us the weird perspective.

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<v Doc>Let's ask him. Let's bring him on. Welcome to the show, Ash.

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<v Ash>Hey, guys. No, I'm the guest rock. So if you're the co-rock,

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<v Doc>I want to be the guest rock. Yeah, I'm the comic. Okay, you're the guest rock.

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<v Doc>That'll be our new intro from here on out. We've done it.

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<v Ash>You've branded it up. I love it. And I love to hear.

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<v Ash>I'm excited. And I love hearing the bio because I'm like, I have no idea what

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<v Ash>you are going to say. And it's good to hear what I do. So.

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<v Ash>You grounded me.

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<v Doc>Yeah, it grounds and reconfirms what it is that you do.

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<v Doc>I actually, like, before we fully kick off into this episode where we're going

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<v Doc>to talk a little bit about workflows and help people understand how to take

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<v Doc>their podcast from kind of conception all the way through to promotion.

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<v Doc>But before we jump into this, I get asked this a lot because we talk a lot about

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<v Doc>CapShow and people are like, okay, but what is it?

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<v Doc>So I'm curious, I have the about Capshow here in my notes, but how would you

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<v Doc>describe Capshow and kind of the foundation of where it came from and what it is?

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<v Ash>Yeah, so really it's an AI content marketing tool,

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<v Ash>it's a lead gen tool, and it really came about, like with most things,

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<v Ash>I think the pain points that we were suffering getting into podcasting,

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<v Ash>I'm going to say maybe about five years ago.

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<v Ash>So my co-founder Deidre, get too colloquial there. And again,

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<v Ash>the Aussiness comes out.

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<v Ash>She got into podcasting and, you know, this whole world of like,

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<v Ash>what are these show notes?

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<v Ash>I thought you just had to record something and put it out, right?

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<v Ash>There's all this stuff that you have to do after it to make sure people can find it.

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<v Ash>So we then went about how do we kind of systemize that? And I guess AI was probably

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<v Ash>ahead of, like that was pre-chat GPT time. So, we started to build.

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<v Ash>We were about six months ahead of the curve there. And yeah,

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<v Ash>we were just trying to make something that made our own lives easier, essentially.

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<v Ash>So, you could take a podcast episode and then that's just grown into video files.

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<v Ash>So, for live streamers and other content creators.

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<v Ash>So, like with everything, you just want life to be easier, right? Yeah.

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<v Doc>Amen. Yeah. It's amazing how much easier all of the AI tools have made my day-to-day.

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<v Doc>It's like my team of friends. I say this often, but I talk to all of my AI tools as if they are people.

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<v Doc>So I thank them. I ask them how their day was. I was like, that was a great answer.

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<v Doc>They say complimentary things back to me. It's just a wonderful feeling here

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<v Doc>with my AI fleet of robots helping me with everything.

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<v Katie>I should stop asking. I go back and forth between doing that because in the

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<v Katie>beginning, well, now they're much better.

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<v Katie>But in the beginning, sometimes that would confuse them. But now they're so smart.

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<v Katie>And it's amazing what they continually learn month after month after month after month.

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<v Katie>So, yeah, you're right. The ability to just do mundane tasks,

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<v Katie>especially I'm finding Claude does real good with data analysis.

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<v Katie>So my fulfillment spreadsheets for Duck Pops is pretty psycho.

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<v Katie>It's just the way Fourth Wall does it. Actually, you've seen the Fourth Wall fulfillment sheets.

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<v Katie>They're kind of crazy and I'll just throw it at Claude and I'm like,

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<v Katie>can you please analyze this and then put all the right shipping carriers in

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<v Katie>the right spots and it was like, yeah, okay and it just does it.

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<v Katie>I'm like, wow that would have taken me hours because I can't stand Excel.

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<v Katie>It would have taken me legit four hours. It's like...

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<v Doc>The crazy thing, too, is that, like, it, you know, obviously,

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<v Doc>like, there's a million and one things you can do with these tools across,

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<v Doc>like, virtually every single aspect of any of our lives.

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<v Doc>But you're right, Ash, that, like, in the world of podcasting and video podcasting,

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<v Doc>certainly, there's this, like, there's a whole bunch of these steps that are,

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<v Doc>like, even if you like them, they're, like, not the most fun.

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<v Doc>They're, like, really, like, mundane.

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<v Doc>And they take up a ton of time, right? Like the, like naming,

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<v Doc>naming your episode, like, especially if you're like us and you're going out

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<v Doc>across YouTube, it's like your YouTube title and description.

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<v Doc>There's like a format that it needs to hit in order to be successful.

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<v Doc>You want, you know, you probably want all of those show notes.

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<v Doc>You want, you know, social media posts.

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<v Doc>You want maybe like a blog post or a checklist that sits alongside of all of it.

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<v Doc>This used to take me hours of time before I started using tools like Capture.

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<v Doc>So it, it is, it is pretty amazing. So I'm marveled that these kinds of things

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<v Doc>exist and do really make things so much easier.

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<v Doc>Did I miss anything? What else? It gives quotes. Capture gives quotes.

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<v Ash>Oh, what Capture does? Yeah, quotes, lead magnets, and we create checklists.

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<v Katie>The lead magnet part is fun.

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<v Ash>Yeah, clips, and then taking the video clips. We've gone into the thumbnail generation as well.

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<v Ash>So just that where kind of people and our users needed help,

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<v Ash>we've kind of just slowly continued to build it that way because...

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<v Katie>You do it the way we do it. Like you let it out there, people are using it and

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<v Katie>they go, Hey, it'd be really cool if, and you go, yeah, we have that in the

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<v Katie>pipeline. You write it down real quick.

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<v Ash>Yeah.

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<v Katie>Go and make it happen. I have a question. As long as I've been using this and

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<v Katie>talk to you guys a million times, where the heck did you come up with Capture?

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<v Ash>I think we go back and forth on this and I don't think we all sit and agree on the origin story.

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<v Ash>So like, I'm going to say I'm the most recent to it, like full time.

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<v Ash>So Deej and Bonner have been working on it. That was their lifeblood.

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<v Ash>I was kind of doing it part-time and then kind of transitioned across.

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<v Ash>So, CapShow came about in their, I believe they named it. And I always thought

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<v Ash>it was because they were also trying to come up with captions.

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<v Ash>So, there was podcasting show notes, but it was, I guess, the first brainchild

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<v Ash>was it was a captioning tool for more social media.

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<v Ash>And I'm like, CapShow, captions make sense. And they disagree that that's true.

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<v Ash>But I'm going to stick with that.

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<v Doc>That was what I was guessing. It definitely makes sense in.

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<v Ash>My logical mind. Well, you are wrong, like me. so I don't know why we named it this

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<v Doc>Well, everyone listening and watching can just double down on that so that we

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<v Doc>can just really, you know, rise up a group of people who are Capture users that

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<v Doc>believe that that is the origin story.

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<v Katie>It makes sense. And just so you don't feel weird, Ecamm was named Ecamm long

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<v Katie>before there was any cameras involved. There you go. How about that?

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<v Katie>That's the part that's actually pretty hilarious. Ecamm came out in 1999,

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<v Katie>but like cameras as like webcams and things like that is more like 2004.

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<v Katie>So it's really like, yeah, people always ask the question. Oh,

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<v Katie>Ecam is new? No, we've been around for, we're old enough to drink now.

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<v Ash>So what was it? You would have been drinking in Australia a long time ago.

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<v Ash>You know what I mean? That's the beauty of living there.

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<v Katie>Right, right. When I go to Japan, right. That was when I was in Japan and the

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<v Katie>drinking age is 20. I was like, okay, that's cool.

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<v Katie>So their first app was a Palm Pilot app, which is great. Like when you think

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<v Katie>about it, that was eons ago. Palm Pilot.

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<v Doc>And I think Ecamm really just came from the idea of like they needed like a

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<v Doc>cool sounding name for this growing business and they needed,

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<v Doc>you know, a domain that would be easy to remember.

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<v Doc>So it was like it was like email and like cameras, maybe.

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<v Ash>And then you do two M's just to be different and stand out. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Doc>Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, I want to dive in.

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<v Doc>So we promised this episode would be about helping people understand how to

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<v Doc>create high quality video podcasts faster and easier using Capture.

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<v Doc>So I want to talk a little bit about workflows.

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<v Doc>And Ash, I know you're ready to share your screen. Do we want to swing over maybe here?

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<v Doc>Yeah, let's get into a demo. And let's talk about like, okay,

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<v Doc>if you want to join us in making things easier using these tools,

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<v Doc>what steps do you do and when if you're thinking about podcasts?

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<v Doc>Because I think that that's hard sometimes for people to wrap their head around.

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<v Doc>Like, okay, what's my actual workflow with this kind of thing? How do I use it?

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<v Ash>Yeah. So I think you're right. So like I'm going to say, we've been doing the

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<v Ash>podcast since the beginning of last season. So we kind of got into it.

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<v Ash>I think we've released about 30 episodes now, but we've really personally been

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<v Ash>doing it for about myself, what, six odd months.

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<v Ash>Obviously the tool is about two and a half years. So we were in the space.

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<v Ash>We know a lot of podcasters deep in it.

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<v Ash>Deej was podcasting, but I hadn't dipped my toe into it. So,

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<v Ash>I was like, okay, let me see where this is at.

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<v Ash>And all the things you mentioned before were like, the recording takes such

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<v Ash>a long time that the show notes was the last thing I wanted to do.

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<v Ash>I'm just like, it almost stopped me from publishing it because you want,

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<v Ash>there's another step. Like, why do I have to do this?

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<v Ash>So, really for us now, it's...

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<v Ash>Making sure i guess again that episode planning

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<v Ash>i think is so key like you kind of like

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<v Ash>you know the direction we focus on mainly like one

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<v Ash>topic so it's with my younger brother so we just kind of use it as a catch-up

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<v Ash>so we have two segments we talk some nonsense at the top it's more for our mom

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<v Ash>our mom listens so she catches up with us that way we started a group chat she's

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<v Ash>responding to the podcast she's emailing us she's our biggest fan and

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<v Doc>This is the best reason to start a podcast that I think I've ever heard and

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<v Doc>we're doing it literally just to get done with my mom that's amazing.

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<v Ash>We all live that's it I'm in Austin my brother's moved

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<v Ash>he lives in Zurich my mom is still back in Sydney so we're no longer there so

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<v Ash>this is the best way to to ensure that she hears our voice every week so so

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<v Ash>we got really good at like I guess that point and then that allowed the I guess

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<v Ash>the production time to be a little bit shorter even though we talk a lot of nonsense

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<v Ash>and and then it is just then the ability to take that

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<v Ash>throw it into captcha and then have everything as you

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<v Ash>said generate versus then having to kind of sit there

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<v Ash>and now think okay now what's next or

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<v Ash>what platforms do i want to be on we offer

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<v Ash>up a lot but it kind of allows you to kind of

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<v Ash>assess it and then pick what feels right or where

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<v Ash>you want to be because i always say you don't want to be on all of them like

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<v Ash>even then we would say that before and then i got into it and go i don't know

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<v Ash>if I was on all these platforms and knew how long this would then still take

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<v Ash>me and I'd be so unfocused so I almost go like you get to that stage but already

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<v Ash>ahead of time you kind of know

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<v Ash>is it more geared towards Facebook is it more Instagram are you on YouTube first

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<v Ash>do you want to create long-form content and get people coming into the website

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<v Ash>as long as you know that ahead of time it makes the next step a lot more manageable and targeted

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<v Doc>The cool thing about CAPTCHA that I really like, I love and works for my brain.

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<v Doc>So I did this training with Kat Mulvihill, her momentum theory training,

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<v Doc>where she talks a lot about like finding processes and systems and tools that work for your brain.

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<v Doc>And CAPTCHA was like the perfect example of this, because once you're done,

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<v Doc>like Doc and I are great at this point at recording the video, right?

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<v Doc>Like we're really good at like speaking in video. Doc is incredible at it.

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<v Doc>I've like forced myself to get much better at it.

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<v Doc>So once the video is done, what's cool about it is you just,

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<v Doc>you send that through into Captshow and then Captshow like analyzes it, right?

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<v Doc>So it's, it's grabbing the transcript, it's reading the transcript.

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<v Doc>So it's hearing what you're saying.

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<v Doc>And then it, and then it asks you these follow-up questions where it's like,

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<v Doc>what is this video about?

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<v Doc>So it gets you thinking about stuff that you probably weren't really thinking about.

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<v Doc>Cause in, in my mind, I was like, well, I've done the video. So I'm all done.

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<v Doc>And I've moved on to the next thing I haven't thought about it,

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<v Doc>where I feel like it doesn't just generate a whole bunch of stuff.

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<v Doc>It first says, like, hey, Katie, actually, what do you think this video was about?

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<v Doc>And then when you put it in, it's like, what are you trying to do with this video?

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<v Doc>And then it says, here's what we think it's about and the ratings of how popular that is.

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<v Doc>And then lets you kind of go through those steps that way, which I really value when I don't,

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<v Doc>I have not found another tool that does this, that the act of getting you to

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<v Doc>slow down and stop and think about it, I think is actually really crucial to

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<v Doc>getting it right versus just,

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<v Doc>you know, setting something through into like Claude or a ChatGPT and being

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<v Doc>like, well done, I'm going to copy and paste that out.

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<v Doc>It's a different, it's much more intentional and I think that's really huge.

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<v Katie>And honestly, if you don't know how to fine tune a prompt in order to make it

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<v Katie>for show notes, the way that people are accustomed to seeing a show notes,

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<v Katie>you know, like, um, as Luis would say in Chris rock, they custom to, um,

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<v Katie>you're going to get something that looks okay, but it won't really flow.

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<v Katie>God, I hate when I do that, but invite everybody drink, Katie, drink, um,

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<v Katie>it won't have the right flow so what's what's cool about when

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<v Katie>you use a tool like this the the internal prompts

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<v Katie>that are making this stuff for you they're fine-tuned for a

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<v Katie>very specific task and it knows how to get the best out of what that task is

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<v Katie>and i i've totally seen the difference between you know using something like

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<v Katie>this and making myself and i know how to write prompts very well it's still

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<v Katie>like it takes a lot of fine-tuning it isn't something you're going to tune in one correct crack

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<v Ash>The craziness is like, I will attest that, you know, I have my own shortcuts

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<v Ash>where, you know, you've got a capture, which is the full fledged kind of system.

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<v Ash>And as you said, like, there's so much that goes into it in the back end where...

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<v Ash>I love what you said there, Katie, because I was saying this to Deidre this

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<v Ash>morning where AI has allowed us to move at such a pace.

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<v Ash>So, there's a whole school of thought, which is like, don't be a perfectionist,

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<v Ash>like doing, you know, trumped everything, which is great.

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<v Ash>But I feel like now doing can come so fast without any maybe thought behind it and that's not great.

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<v Ash>And because then you can kind of get too far down the road before you realize

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<v Ash>maybe, you know, you need it to be somewhere else.

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<v Ash>And so, I think that beautiful piece, whether it's using Capture or even when

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<v Ash>I'm using ChatGPT, Claude, that extra little step of like, what are you trying

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<v Ash>to do or even getting it to plan a little bit for you before you do it enhances it so much.

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<v Ash>So, we just went like, that's the natural flow of how we would do it as humans.

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<v Ash>Like, really, the goal is to take the manual process and automate that,

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<v Ash>not create some fast process that is different essentially. So hopefully what

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<v Ash>you feel is just like, this is what I used to do, took me three, four hours.

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<v Ash>It's now still so much shorter, but it's so intentional and it's all optimized

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<v Ash>for each of the platforms and each of the outputs that we produce.

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<v Doc>Yeah, I kind of liken it to like when I'm trying to write a presentation notes

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<v Doc>or like a really important email back to someone and I don't want to be misunderstood

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<v Doc>or I want to make sure I'm saying the right things,

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<v Doc>I inevitably find a friend or a colleague or someone,

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<v Doc>and I'm like, you know, can I read this out loud to you?

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<v Doc>Can I present this to you? Like, can I run this by you? Does this sound okay?

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<v Doc>Am I hitting all of the points?

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<v Doc>And that is what kind of that step is doing, is saying like,

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<v Doc>hey, I just listened to you give this presentation, and like,

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<v Doc>is this what you meant to say?

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<v Doc>Is this like, because it seems like your audience actually wants to hear about

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<v Doc>these things, like which you talked a little bit about. So like,

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<v Doc>it actually could change even the point.

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<v Doc>Could be in that process, even though this may be more work for you,

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<v Doc>it might be you look at that and say, oh, actually, this episode was supposed to be on this topic.

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<v Doc>But I talked about this and, you know, and Captcha was saying,

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<v Doc>actually, this this, you know, one little point of the episode is really what

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<v Doc>would be most impactful for your audience.

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<v Doc>And maybe that becomes a, you know, maybe you redo that episode or maybe you

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<v Doc>dive deeper into that topic in a future episode because it's telling you,

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<v Doc>you know, what people are actually searching for and looking for what that SEO

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<v Doc>rating is of that content.

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<v Doc>So I think that's huge. But I want you to swing into demo mode so Luis can hopefully

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<v Doc>help us swing over into the share screen because I want people to know what it looks like.

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<v Doc>Yeah so so other than just nebulously talking through it because i think sometimes

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<v Doc>people have a hard time wrapping their heads around it here's what it here's

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<v Doc>what it looks like it's pretty easy.

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<v Ash>This is the main dashboard as you can see

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<v Ash>i've got some episodes here that are still i guess i've already

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<v Ash>processed kind of splits down once you're there ready to edit but

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<v Ash>probably the first step and one of the things that you kind of just like touched

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<v Ash>and alluded to there katie is um i think

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<v Ash>the beauty with the i guess how we also built it

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<v Ash>was in the early days and sometimes

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<v Ash>and again they have definitely got a lot better but it

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<v Ash>there's limitations to platforms then like chat to bits

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<v Ash>in terms of getting it to sound like you and writing your tone

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<v Ash>of voice and your style so we really with this version

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<v Ash>we're really intentional to go how do we capture that essence up front

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<v Ash>and then also keep learning from what

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<v Ash>you do to make it better which sometimes can be a

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<v Ash>challenge or you kind of maybe see it but you don't know why it's happening

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<v Ash>and whether it's guided the way you want it so it's really simple you can just

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<v Ash>upload a file so it takes um both audio video or you can paste in your youtube

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<v Ash>link and i'm just going to quickly kind of like show a

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<v Ash>Demo of this just so you can see it asks you a few questions so this again goes

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<v Ash>to that point you mentioned katie where it's like we kind of want to be quite

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<v Ash>intentional to make sure that we capture a lot of the information up front to

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<v Ash>make the output as you know amazing as possible

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<v Ash>and so here i've created a number of personas when you start it's so easy to

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<v Ash>just throw in some details basically give yourself a name we really want to

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<v Ash>capture like who you are who your audiences.

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<v Ash>We've also helped and built a tool off to the side. And then you can upload

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<v Ash>some information here around your content.

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<v Ash>So, if you're more Instagram first, if you're email first, wherever you think

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<v Ash>your brand or personality comes out in your content, you upload it in,

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<v Ash>we analyze it, and then we set that into your persona.

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<v Ash>So, every time you create, it now is written in your style yeah

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<v Doc>It's pulling from like your history your actual actually what you say and how you sound.

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<v Ash>Yeah that's the thing and that's just so key and critical in terms of again

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<v Ash>being able to stand out because otherwise then it is that

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<v Ash>homogenous nature of i think sometimes you know as you said you put in a thing

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<v Ash>and to say please write me some show notes it's just going to follow some generic

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<v Ash>template yeah absolutely Because I can't see you.

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<v Ash>I'm going to say, if you just jump in, because I'm like, it's always weird when I share my screen.

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<v Doc>No, it's great. Let's click through on one of them and show the different options

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<v Doc>on the other. Let's go through the process just so that people can see.

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<v Ash>So I'm going to show you a couple.

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<v Katie>Like 29, you have the different parts on it. Yeah.

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<v Ash>Yeah. So I'm going to quickly, I'm going to click into 22 and I'll show you

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<v Ash>the difference between how the learning works.

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<v Ash>Once you've uploaded a file you kind of click in

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<v Ash>and you can kind of see every platform is there

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<v Ash>presented for you and the beauty here is

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<v Ash>and we we shifted to this format because we found

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<v Ash>we were giving everything to everybody and that almost

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<v Ash>was overwhelming it was just like oh my god i

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<v Ash>if i'm not using the blog post and i feel bad if

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<v Ash>i'm not on facebook and only on instagram so we

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<v Ash>were like let's take a step back and once you

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<v Ash>get it you get your podcast show notes and then everything else is there you

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<v Ash>just can kind of click in generate it it produces it for you but this is that

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<v Ash>step where i'm like you can be really intentional and just focus on the platforms

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<v Ash>that you need to be yep show notes perspective yeah yep go for it

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<v Doc>I was gonna say and i mean hopefully you all watching and listening,

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<v Doc>if you are doing a podcast, have some kind of workflow and have a checklist of these steps anyway.

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<v Doc>So it's like, now that you're done the episode, it should be like,

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<v Doc>okay, I need my show notes. I need the best possible title and description.

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<v Doc>You're going through a checklist anyway. So these are just helping you identify

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<v Doc>what you might need and making sure that you get the work done and through your checklist.

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<v Ash>So, what I've got up on the screen is almost like let's, this is like the OG.

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<v Ash>So, this is like Capture out of the box. So, obviously, we've kind of,

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<v Ash>we've set up the persona. So, it's still written in my tone of voice,

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<v Ash>but it doesn't know much.

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<v Ash>It's kind of still working off how we've really adjusted the strategy for show

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<v Ash>notes with different experts.

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<v Ash>But this, we all know that we just like to write differently,

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<v Ash>set up things differently. So, we didn't want to constrain people.

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<v Ash>And so this is the step where you'd go in you can review

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<v Ash>it we always recommend like ai gets you 80 90

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<v Ash>there jump in here and actually still make your

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<v Ash>manual edits that's where also your personality shines

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<v Ash>so you would kind of come in here fully editable

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<v Ash>editor and if we look at it a

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<v Ash>bit of a title episodes key takeaways bonus content yada yada so i've bring

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<v Ash>that up just to show you the difference in what we'll see with 29 so i then

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<v Ash>kind of primed it i've thrown in all of the different content that we actually

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<v Ash>have produced it knows that for the latest episode

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<v Ash>You can kind of see how different this show notes look because this is how i

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<v Ash>set my show notes up and they get in touch so that kind of cta line that we

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<v Ash>do if you kind of add that within cap show and then we have a little mark as complete button here.

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<v Ash>It then tells the system, hey, what I've put in here for all the assets,

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<v Ash>this is what I want you to learn.

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<v Ash>And now it's continued to learn off the five episodes prior.

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<v Ash>And now it's producing show notes completely different to the out of the box

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<v Ash>capture that is personalized for me.

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<v Doc>That's awesome. I think it's a really smart way to approach it.

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<v Katie>It sort of learns what you do. And then that's how you train the formatting.

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<v Katie>And again, trading this with a regular model is not easy.

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<v Katie>That's the part where people get frustrated, but it, you know,

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<v Katie>this is makes it so much simpler.

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<v Doc>Yeah. And it's all there for you too, which again, like is helpful if you're

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<v Doc>newer to this, it can kind of help create a checklist for you as well,

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<v Doc>where you're like, oh shoot, like,

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<v Doc>you know, I didn't think about show notes or I didn't think about like Instagram,

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<v Doc>you know, posts that I need to do later, but it's, it's there as kind of a visual

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<v Doc>reminder of what you should be working through every single time you release an episode or a video.

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<v Katie>So to Ash's point, right? So Katie, to Ash's point, I, you know,

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<v Katie>some people look at that And that's why I put in the chat, like having feelings is really bad.

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<v Katie>If you look at that and you go, oh, I'm not doing Facebook, so I feel bad.

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<v Katie>I'm like, no, that's telling you here's an opportunity for the thing you always

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<v Katie>say when we go to conferences. Well, how do I get more people to see my stuff?

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<v Katie>Don't live in Facebook because it's dangerous, but definitely promote your stuff

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<v Katie>there because obviously everybody's there.

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<v Katie>So you know what I mean? It's like, I don't want to put an ad in the paper to

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<v Katie>make someone come to my used car lot. That sounds really crazy.

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<v Doc>Yeah. uh taisha's asking like a really fantastic

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<v Doc>question um she asks would this be something that would be useful for me even

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<v Doc>if i don't have a podcast absolutely so like we like i use it for youtube i

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<v Doc>am personally using it for youtube in general like or any it works for any video

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<v Doc>and audio too i believe right ash yeah so i've even had any video audio file gone.

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<v Ash>Like the beauty it is and sometimes again it's that level of like adaptability

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<v Ash>to say like it starts with a podcast or you see YouTube and you think,

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<v Ash>if I'm not on that platform, I can't use it.

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<v Ash>We have people, we record our summit. If you have webinars,

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<v Ash>like, yeah, if the content, sometimes I'm just like, if you've got an idea and

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<v Ash>you are not ready to have a podcast, but it's great content,

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<v Ash>you could record that half an hour and then upload it and you will get all of

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<v Ash>this content that you could still leverage.

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<v Ash>So it's, if you have audio, if you have video, you can throw it into Capture

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<v Ash>and it will produce all of this.

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<v Ash>And to your point, Katie, before, sometimes you read it and you're like,

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<v Ash>I did talk about that you sometimes record this stuff and you just move on you

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<v Ash>forget it and you're like it makes you sound smarter and you're like that's

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<v Ash>great yeah that's brilliant

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<v Katie>And Tyson, to your case, very specifically, if you were to take,

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<v Katie>I wouldn't do it necessarily for this particular show, but here's an example.

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<v Katie>Because you've done so many of your Q&As recently, I was on her Q&A yesterday

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<v Katie>because we're doing something similar.

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<v Katie>You literally could take the

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<v Katie>last five episodes, put them in a playlist on YouTube and click podcast.

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<v Katie>Now you have a podcast. People get stuck in the word of what is a podcast.

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<v Katie>I want you to just wrap your head around the terminology show.

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<v Katie>If you have a show, you have a podcast. If you have something that you publish

00:27:08.951 --> 00:27:14.351

<v Katie>on a particular timeline that everybody kind of knows that that timeline is it.

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<v Katie>So every Thursday, I'm going to come here and talk about buying wool socks.

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<v Katie>That's a podcast.

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<v Katie>All you do is check a box. So, you know, the podcasters would love you to believe

00:27:27.671 --> 00:27:31.291

<v Katie>it's something super special, but it's not. It's just a weird label.

00:27:31.571 --> 00:27:35.031

<v Doc>There's no special shows here. No, but it's a good point too.

00:27:35.031 --> 00:27:40.111

<v Doc>And that's, in many cases, like the magic of tools like this is when you're

00:27:40.111 --> 00:27:44.731

<v Doc>doing a recurring video or audio or show or podcast,

00:27:45.031 --> 00:27:49.111

<v Doc>like all of these things on a recurring basis, that gives you content that then

00:27:49.111 --> 00:27:54.211

<v Doc>builds and helps AI understand you better and give you better end results, right?

00:27:54.211 --> 00:27:59.431

<v Doc>So it's actually better if you're doing any kind of recurring anything versus

00:27:59.431 --> 00:28:05.431

<v Doc>the one-off things, because it allows the training of these tools to make the output better.

00:28:05.611 --> 00:28:09.291

<v Doc>So it is actually harder to use tools, at least in my personal perspective,

00:28:09.751 --> 00:28:12.711

<v Doc>harder to use tools like this if you're only doing something ad hoc.

00:28:12.891 --> 00:28:15.591

<v Doc>Like you're like, I do this one video, and then I do this completely different

00:28:15.591 --> 00:28:19.431

<v Doc>video, because then it's not going to – you'll have a harder time kind of understanding

00:28:19.431 --> 00:28:21.311

<v Doc>who you are and what you're doing.

00:28:21.771 --> 00:28:25.371

<v Ash>That's a good point, Katie. To the name of the show, you have no workflow there.

00:28:25.691 --> 00:28:30.391

<v Ash>Like you have no routine. Like that's really what most of this comes down to is –

00:28:30.973 --> 00:28:35.253

<v Ash>Even if you're doing the podcast, sometimes or the live stream,

00:28:35.753 --> 00:28:38.993

<v Ash>you're just putting videos out on YouTube, you might not be doing this.

00:28:39.153 --> 00:28:42.473

<v Ash>And then this feel like, I guess that felt strange to begin with.

00:28:42.573 --> 00:28:46.273

<v Ash>It felt a little bit clunky and awkward. And then you got into your groove. This is no different.

00:28:46.473 --> 00:28:49.693

<v Ash>And it's that idea of just like, it's that continuity and consistency.

00:28:50.073 --> 00:28:54.013

<v Ash>Once you do it every week and you kind of then work out what works for you,

00:28:54.073 --> 00:28:55.313

<v Ash>like you play around with it.

00:28:55.433 --> 00:29:00.053

<v Ash>You go, actually, I like the Instagram awareness polls more than the contrarian

00:29:00.053 --> 00:29:03.773

<v Ash>statements on Facebook, then you kind of know where everything lives.

00:29:03.893 --> 00:29:07.713

<v Ash>But a lot of us then, you know, you also need to be curious sometimes and play

00:29:07.713 --> 00:29:11.513

<v Ash>with some of these to know what is actually speaking to you,

00:29:11.653 --> 00:29:15.893

<v Ash>what's actually, you know, going to feed what, almost how you want to present

00:29:15.893 --> 00:29:18.273

<v Ash>the content out into the world.

00:29:18.893 --> 00:29:21.813

<v Ash>So, yeah, I don't know. Do you want to see any of the other things?

00:29:21.933 --> 00:29:24.473

<v Ash>I mean, as I said, like each of the platforms is like optimized.

00:29:25.253 --> 00:29:29.893

<v Ash>We worked with like different experts so that each of them kind of has strategy

00:29:29.893 --> 00:29:33.773

<v Ash>built into it as well so like on social media we work with katie brinkley she

00:29:33.773 --> 00:29:38.433

<v Ash>has like a four post strategy to take through how you you know share the content

00:29:38.433 --> 00:29:43.693

<v Ash>and engage people so you know the first one's awareness posts can be quite contrarian

00:29:44.243 --> 00:29:47.303

<v Ash>This was an episode that we broke down the NFL Combine recently.

00:29:47.303 --> 00:29:51.743

<v Ash>So, you know, it gives you options of, well, this is not probably what the norm

00:29:51.743 --> 00:29:55.123

<v Ash>is out there trying to create commentary and engagement.

00:29:55.443 --> 00:29:58.643

<v Katie>I like number one. Number one is hilarious to me.

00:29:59.003 --> 00:30:03.223

<v Katie>For those of y'all who are listening or you can't read, the first kind of idea

00:30:03.223 --> 00:30:07.843

<v Katie>says, Combine 40-yard dash times are as meaningful as astrology readings for

00:30:07.843 --> 00:30:09.083

<v Katie>predicting NFL success.

00:30:09.363 --> 00:30:13.623

<v Katie>Thoughts. And the reason why that's super funny, and I'm going to say this with

00:30:13.623 --> 00:30:16.383

<v Katie>a lot of pain in my heart, I'm a diehard Raiders fan.

00:30:16.503 --> 00:30:21.803

<v Katie>And for years, our owner loves to draft the fastest person in the NFL.

00:30:22.103 --> 00:30:26.723

<v Katie>And for years, the fastest person in the NFL has been the fastest to be out of the NFL.

00:30:26.983 --> 00:30:30.063

<v Ash>They don't know how to play actual football. They just know how to run fast.

00:30:30.703 --> 00:30:34.083

<v Katie>Yeah. He's like, oh, we can teach them the skills. I was like,

00:30:34.163 --> 00:30:36.583

<v Katie>yeah, not the way the level is now.

00:30:36.743 --> 00:30:39.023

<v Katie>Back in the day, that might have been true, but now it's not.

00:30:39.763 --> 00:30:43.743

<v Doc>This model really, really works. So we did, and this is actually a great segue,

00:30:43.963 --> 00:30:45.243

<v Doc>or I feel like it's a great segue.

00:30:46.343 --> 00:30:52.763

<v Doc>But we did an incredible challenge with the CapShow team last year where we broke this down.

00:30:52.923 --> 00:30:56.363

<v Doc>And we really, like, we all, everyone that participated jumped in.

00:30:56.463 --> 00:30:58.223

<v Doc>They learned how to use Ecamm. They learned how to use CapShow.

00:30:58.443 --> 00:31:04.003

<v Doc>And we, even our internal team here at Ecamm, we started using this four-post

00:31:04.003 --> 00:31:08.723

<v Doc>social media strategy from Katie Brinkley. And it made a huge difference.

00:31:08.923 --> 00:31:13.603

<v Doc>People love to give their opinion on a statement like that. Like you heard how

00:31:13.603 --> 00:31:16.003

<v Doc>fast Doc was like, I've got thoughts and feelings, right?

00:31:16.343 --> 00:31:22.103

<v Doc>Everyone has thoughts, maybe just thoughts, Doc. But everyone loves to give their opinion.

00:31:22.123 --> 00:31:27.563

<v Doc>So these posts do work and this strategy works really, really well.

00:31:27.763 --> 00:31:32.063

<v Doc>So I think it's a great thing to test and play with. It's not something we do

00:31:32.063 --> 00:31:34.703

<v Doc>all the time at Ecamm. We test and play with it and it works.

00:31:34.872 --> 00:31:38.552

<v Doc>It works, but it, I think it's, it's great. It's like, it's nice that it's built

00:31:38.552 --> 00:31:41.472

<v Doc>right. And you don't even have to think you don't even need to have a strategist.

00:31:41.592 --> 00:31:44.952

<v Doc>They have a strategist built right into the tool for you.

00:31:45.132 --> 00:31:51.292

<v Doc>So, so it's great, but that's my segue into, we should tease and talk about this year's challenge.

00:31:51.292 --> 00:31:57.052

<v Doc>So we're doing another challenge with the cap show team and Ash and doc are

00:31:57.052 --> 00:32:01.992

<v Doc>doing their own totally real and yet completely fake live show.

00:32:03.172 --> 00:32:09.772

<v Doc>Total nonsense. So why don't the two of you try to define what this challenge is?

00:32:10.052 --> 00:32:13.352

<v Katie>It's hard to define. Go for a talk.

00:32:13.592 --> 00:32:18.812

<v Katie>So we had this idea that we wanted to build a show to show you how to build

00:32:18.812 --> 00:32:21.172

<v Katie>a show. See, that already just comes out sounding goofy.

00:32:21.672 --> 00:32:24.772

<v Katie>We wanted to build a show to show you how to build a show. And so we said,

00:32:24.812 --> 00:32:26.032

<v Katie>well, what should we make the show about?

00:32:26.232 --> 00:32:29.852

<v Katie>And I was like, well, the most famous show ever is a show about nothing.

00:32:29.852 --> 00:32:38.032

<v Katie>So how about we go to making a show about nothing so we

00:32:38.032 --> 00:32:41.232

<v Ash>Have so much though doc don't sell ourselves short it's

00:32:41.232 --> 00:32:42.392

<v Doc>Gonna be about a lot but.

00:32:42.392 --> 00:32:46.492

<v Katie>Also it's about everything and nothing at all it's like uh what's her name michelle

00:32:46.492 --> 00:32:51.132

<v Katie>um oh my god my brain is window everything and everything anything all at once

00:32:51.132 --> 00:32:53.172

<v Katie>but not really there oh yeah

00:32:53.172 --> 00:32:55.012

<v Doc>Everything yeah yeah.

00:32:55.012 --> 00:32:56.712

<v Katie>Yeah yeah yo so

00:32:56.712 --> 00:32:57.312

<v Ash>It doesn't matter

00:32:57.972 --> 00:33:02.732

<v Katie>It's going to be sort of like that. And I can't wait to do this because we've

00:33:02.732 --> 00:33:04.112

<v Katie>come up with some crazy ideas.

00:33:04.352 --> 00:33:11.192

<v Katie>And Ash has wrote a thing that's kind of generating our fake show for us.

00:33:11.252 --> 00:33:12.972

<v Katie>And so we just have to show up and present it.

00:33:13.092 --> 00:33:18.392

<v Katie>But in the meantime, show you how to create the show in a combination of Ecamm and CapShow.

00:33:19.271 --> 00:33:20.351

<v Katie>That was a lot of shows.

00:33:21.251 --> 00:33:27.151

<v Doc>That's a lot of shows. The real fun behind this is that I think,

00:33:27.351 --> 00:33:31.191

<v Doc>as we say often on this show, we all take ourselves a little bit too seriously.

00:33:31.191 --> 00:33:38.231

<v Doc>And we all get bogged down by making sure that it's absolutely perfect or in

00:33:38.231 --> 00:33:41.471

<v Doc>sync with what we have in our brain before we do it.

00:33:41.471 --> 00:33:47.231

<v Doc>And so we've challenged Doc and Ash to create a show where they talk about topics

00:33:47.231 --> 00:33:52.571

<v Doc>that are randomly assigned to them through the wonder of AI to show you that

00:33:52.571 --> 00:33:55.391

<v Doc>it doesn't actually matter what your show is about.

00:33:55.791 --> 00:34:00.211

<v Doc>It's way easier to get up and running than it seems. And it's way less scary

00:34:00.211 --> 00:34:01.811

<v Doc>to live stream than you think.

00:34:01.931 --> 00:34:07.931

<v Doc>And hopefully you will all join us on this incredibly fun and silly experience.

00:34:07.931 --> 00:34:10.891

<v Doc>Because I think we need a little silliness in our month. So coming in April.

00:34:11.471 --> 00:34:15.671

<v Katie>It's kind of like improv, right? Because one of the skills that every podcaster

00:34:15.671 --> 00:34:18.031

<v Katie>or streamer, presenter,

00:34:18.291 --> 00:34:23.031

<v Katie>Zoomer, whatever, the one skill that everybody needs to brush up on is becoming

00:34:23.031 --> 00:34:26.671

<v Katie>a much better extemporaneous speaker.

00:34:27.151 --> 00:34:31.251

<v Katie>And I can do it about anything and everything, no matter what.

00:34:31.831 --> 00:34:38.251

<v Katie>And part of it comes from Toastmasters and the other part of it comes from improv,

00:34:38.251 --> 00:34:43.591

<v Katie>but also just doing radio for years because the radio, I swear any given moment,

00:34:43.931 --> 00:34:50.431

<v Katie>the PD program director or the traffic person would just come in and hand you a piece of paper.

00:34:51.004 --> 00:34:54.024

<v Katie>And like, all right, at the end of this song, just talk about this.

00:34:54.124 --> 00:34:57.144

<v Katie>Or some random celebrity pops into town with no plans.

00:34:57.504 --> 00:35:01.124

<v Katie>And they're like, hey, we got Shaquille O'Neal here. You got to interview him. What?

00:35:01.684 --> 00:35:04.584

<v Katie>Okay. You know, you just got to do it. You don't have a chance to go,

00:35:04.684 --> 00:35:09.124

<v Katie>oh, no, I'm nervous. Oh, my God, it don't sound right. You have no choice because it's your show.

00:35:09.464 --> 00:35:12.844

<v Katie>And you don't want to ruin your show. Like, you're more than happy to ruin somebody

00:35:12.844 --> 00:35:15.804

<v Katie>else's show, especially if you want the morning block and you're trying to move up.

00:35:16.424 --> 00:35:20.804

<v Katie>But, yeah, so at any given moment, if somebody pops in. Or it's news.

00:35:20.804 --> 00:35:23.204

<v Katie>At the end of the day, we're playing music, but news happens.

00:35:23.584 --> 00:35:27.544

<v Katie>So I don't know if you guys remember in Honolulu a couple years back,

00:35:27.624 --> 00:35:32.164

<v Katie>like when I was in radio, the elephant escaped the circus and ran down the street.

00:35:33.064 --> 00:35:37.404

<v Katie>And like we have to stop Tupac. Y'all, listen, don't freak out.

00:35:37.524 --> 00:35:43.384

<v Katie>If you're driving down Kapi'olani Boulevard, there is a genangent elephant running down the street.

00:35:43.744 --> 00:35:47.424

<v Katie>We know. Nobody call us. Everybody knows. It's kind of huge.

00:35:47.564 --> 00:35:48.724

<v Katie>And these things happen.

00:35:48.924 --> 00:35:51.724

<v Katie>So I think this is cool. and i just

00:35:51.724 --> 00:35:54.604

<v Katie>want to answer jared questions real quick before we dive back in

00:35:54.604 --> 00:35:57.404

<v Katie>uh jared had asked about adding you know threads to

00:35:57.404 --> 00:36:00.864

<v Katie>the list of content creation at the end of the day threads is instagram and

00:36:00.864 --> 00:36:06.424

<v Katie>facebook together so you kind of it's already there really just there just take

00:36:06.424 --> 00:36:10.004

<v Katie>the facebook stuff and use it on threads or take the instagram stuff and use

00:36:10.004 --> 00:36:14.244

<v Katie>it on threads because threads is basically both so actually just save save you

00:36:14.244 --> 00:36:16.904

<v Katie>from kind of like whatever yeah

00:36:16.904 --> 00:36:20.144

<v Ash>No even with well even with threads we we're

00:36:20.144 --> 00:36:23.284

<v Ash>working with um adam shibley around either

00:36:23.284 --> 00:36:27.244

<v Ash>like again kind of maybe looking at building threads in but even what he does

00:36:27.244 --> 00:36:32.304

<v Ash>in um the dashboard there at the bottom is the lead gen or the lead magnet checklist

00:36:32.304 --> 00:36:37.404

<v Ash>he actually takes those checklists and those become his spaced out thread post

00:36:37.404 --> 00:36:42.224

<v Ash>because it is just a systemized way so he again it's it's kind of

00:36:42.876 --> 00:36:45.936

<v Ash>Being able to kind of have fun and hack, as Doc was saying there,

00:36:45.996 --> 00:36:49.236

<v Ash>you can mash these two things together for threads. You can take the checklist.

00:36:49.516 --> 00:36:54.436

<v Ash>And now he's got his kind of like super thread strategy that he uses Capture as the genesis.

00:36:55.296 --> 00:36:58.436

<v Ash>So it's just whatever your imagination. Again, almost as you said,

00:36:58.536 --> 00:37:01.816

<v Ash>Doc, don't be confined by the thing that says, just because that says YouTube,

00:37:01.816 --> 00:37:04.376

<v Ash>if that works somewhere else, use it there.

00:37:05.036 --> 00:37:08.296

<v Katie>I think you want to think of it like, Ash. So somebody's going to,

00:37:08.416 --> 00:37:11.696

<v Katie>I know people, my grandmother used to get really mad at me. She's going to bring

00:37:11.696 --> 00:37:15.816

<v Katie>this plate of food that she spent hours doing. And the first thing I look for, hot sauce.

00:37:16.156 --> 00:37:18.976

<v Katie>Like, it ain't food until there's hot sauce, bro. She's like,

00:37:19.076 --> 00:37:20.536

<v Katie>but why do you put hot sauce on everything?

00:37:21.016 --> 00:37:24.556

<v Katie>I was like, listen, I'm going to put hot sauce on everything.

00:37:24.776 --> 00:37:26.396

<v Katie>So it's just a thing. Put your own sauce.

00:37:27.276 --> 00:37:31.176

<v Katie>And what's cool is you're going to find something that nobody else is doing.

00:37:31.196 --> 00:37:35.016

<v Katie>And we all know, and Jared would know this for sure, Threads,

00:37:35.036 --> 00:37:39.496

<v Katie>similar to X back in the day, loves themselves a listicle. So if you take the

00:37:39.496 --> 00:37:41.916

<v Katie>lead gen, lead gen generates lists for you.

00:37:42.076 --> 00:37:45.116

<v Katie>You could take the list and say it gives you 10.

00:37:45.376 --> 00:37:49.336

<v Katie>You could break it up into segments of three and then say, and the top result

00:37:49.336 --> 00:37:50.576

<v Katie>is, and that's the last thread.

00:37:50.776 --> 00:37:54.836

<v Katie>And so you can run those backwards, right? You go nine up and three at a time

00:37:54.836 --> 00:37:56.816

<v Katie>until you get to one. And those are independent threads.

00:37:57.176 --> 00:38:00.716

<v Katie>So like, yeah, that's, oh, super brilliant. I'm glad you asked that question.

00:38:00.736 --> 00:38:07.496

<v Doc>You could actually, you could use Capsho's lead gen tool to create like a checklist that way, right?

00:38:08.936 --> 00:38:15.396

<v Doc>Once you have the video or the audio done, everything else is so much easier with tools like this.

00:38:15.556 --> 00:38:20.856

<v Doc>You've already done the hard work of creating the content, and then tools like

00:38:20.856 --> 00:38:25.096

<v Doc>this just make it so easy to be creative and to figure out how to bring your

00:38:25.096 --> 00:38:28.836

<v Doc>voice out to all of these different places where all of your audience is.

00:38:29.016 --> 00:38:31.276

<v Doc>I don't know. This is the fun stuff, and I think it...

00:38:31.524 --> 00:38:34.704

<v Doc>It's great that there are tools like this to save time, right? Yeah.

00:38:34.964 --> 00:38:39.424

<v Ash>This was the stuff that wasn't fun. And now hopefully it has a little bit more fun in its voice.

00:38:39.604 --> 00:38:43.284

<v Ash>It's still maybe not fun, but now we can get through it.

00:38:43.424 --> 00:38:46.144

<v Ash>And then it's just that consistency because I just always think it's like it

00:38:46.144 --> 00:38:49.764

<v Ash>probably takes in my mind, it's like if you give three to four weeks into capture

00:38:49.764 --> 00:38:53.204

<v Ash>consistently and you're making those edits and your marking is complete,

00:38:53.664 --> 00:38:55.804

<v Ash>that learning really starts to take hold.

00:38:55.864 --> 00:38:58.564

<v Ash>And then it becomes even more fun because you're like, oh my God,

00:38:58.844 --> 00:38:59.964

<v Ash>it's like it's reading my mind.

00:39:00.084 --> 00:39:04.184

<v Ash>I do say that. And it's like, you do, because we now know, and we are trying

00:39:04.184 --> 00:39:07.384

<v Ash>to bring that back to you rather than putting other people's words together.

00:39:07.384 --> 00:39:10.884

<v Katie>It's funny when your own product surprises you. I'm like that at Ecamm sometimes.

00:39:11.164 --> 00:39:13.944

<v Katie>Like, this is what I work in all day, every day. And every once in a while,

00:39:14.044 --> 00:39:16.784

<v Katie>Ecamm would surprise me. I'm like, what's up, girl? How you know?

00:39:17.064 --> 00:39:19.264

<v Katie>Like, it's kind of funny. It's kind of funny.

00:39:19.724 --> 00:39:22.744

<v Katie>Okay, so gang, we really want you to come and check this out.

00:39:23.324 --> 00:39:27.924

<v Katie>It's going to be an absolute blast. We're going to do it kind of as a combination

00:39:27.924 --> 00:39:32.644

<v Katie>game show, talk show. and so ash has built some really cool tools that's going

00:39:32.644 --> 00:39:35.704

<v Katie>to give us these crazy topics it's going to be way more we're

00:39:35.704 --> 00:39:37.084

<v Doc>Going to have so fun there.

00:39:37.084 --> 00:39:40.084

<v Katie>Um and so what we're i think

00:39:40.084 --> 00:39:43.824

<v Katie>we're kind of thinking is we're going to pre-record some stuff just so it has

00:39:43.824 --> 00:39:49.344

<v Katie>a kickoff and then we're going to have a live stream directly after that you

00:39:49.344 --> 00:39:53.264

<v Katie>can come in and watch us build a show and we'll show you how we create the assets

00:39:53.264 --> 00:39:59.864

<v Katie>with ecamm and with cap show and just give you the idea of how to build a fun and engaging show.

00:40:00.384 --> 00:40:04.104

<v Katie>And if ever you want, here's one thing that I think is brilliant.

00:40:04.724 --> 00:40:08.844

<v Katie>If ever you want to get good at podcasting fast, and this is something that

00:40:08.844 --> 00:40:10.224

<v Katie>like Kathy does with her brother,

00:40:11.035 --> 00:40:14.495

<v Katie>If you can be like Ash and you can find a sibling to go with you,

00:40:14.695 --> 00:40:19.635

<v Katie>you can just record a show about absolute nothing just to get good at talking

00:40:19.635 --> 00:40:24.335

<v Katie>to other people because, you know, this other person, you guys can make 10 episodes

00:40:24.335 --> 00:40:25.635

<v Katie>and delete the whole thing.

00:40:25.755 --> 00:40:29.895

<v Katie>But I guarantee you, number one, you won't. Once you get past five and you start

00:40:29.895 --> 00:40:32.855

<v Katie>cracking up and realize how much you love hanging out with your sibs again,

00:40:33.395 --> 00:40:35.575

<v Katie>then it will turn into a thing.

00:40:35.575 --> 00:40:41.155

<v Katie>I've often thought about making a podcast with my Esau mother-in-law because

00:40:41.155 --> 00:40:44.975

<v Katie>the crazy stuff she says about last Monday.

00:40:45.335 --> 00:40:50.515

<v Doc>So we have a- I would watch it. Please, please do. I would totally watch it.

00:40:50.515 --> 00:40:53.475

<v Katie>Listen, last Monday was St. Patrick's Day.

00:40:53.895 --> 00:40:58.615

<v Katie>And the bank here in Hawaii, one of the bigger banks, is called Central Pacific Day.

00:40:58.855 --> 00:41:02.495

<v Katie>Well, in her English mix-up, she goes, oh, you're wearing a green shirt.

00:41:02.615 --> 00:41:04.795

<v Katie>Yeah. She goes, oh, yeah, today is Central Patrick's Day.

00:41:07.075 --> 00:41:11.175

<v Katie>What what noney it was

00:41:11.175 --> 00:41:14.195

<v Katie>like say that again it's gonna go central patrick's day that's when everybody wear

00:41:14.195 --> 00:41:18.915

<v Katie>the green right and i'm like oh my god i wish i hadn't recorded that it was

00:41:18.915 --> 00:41:23.795

<v Katie>so gold and so you would be surprised at the kind of fun stuff you could come

00:41:23.795 --> 00:41:29.555

<v Katie>up with but to ice to ice's point what that will help you become with better

00:41:29.555 --> 00:41:32.335

<v Katie>at is this speaking thing you can't get better at speaking,

00:41:32.555 --> 00:41:36.395

<v Katie>watching YouTube, you really have to do this. So this is a great challenge.

00:41:36.675 --> 00:41:40.535

<v Katie>And if you see what we're doing, I highly suggest you copy it with one of your

00:41:40.535 --> 00:41:42.675

<v Katie>besties and you can just leave them unlisted.

00:41:42.955 --> 00:41:46.515

<v Katie>But what you're secretly doing is building up your skill for the camera.

00:41:47.075 --> 00:41:51.455

<v Katie>And then you might find out you like it and be like, yo, we should do this. We have a vibe.

00:41:51.575 --> 00:41:55.515

<v Katie>You guys have that one friend that you guys are like guaranteed,

00:41:55.515 --> 00:41:58.155

<v Katie>almost ready to go to jail when you hang out. That's the podcast.

00:41:59.728 --> 00:42:03.328

<v Katie>For Katie, that was Nat. Yeah. I mean, that's Luis.

00:42:04.388 --> 00:42:10.288

<v Doc>Yeah. And it's, again, like, I love that the two of you were so excited and

00:42:10.288 --> 00:42:12.408

<v Doc>willing to get crazy and silly.

00:42:12.508 --> 00:42:15.908

<v Doc>Because I think making it really approachable for people and making it really

00:42:15.908 --> 00:42:21.308

<v Doc>fun is what's going to kind of demystify and make it feel really possible for everyone.

00:42:21.468 --> 00:42:25.568

<v Doc>So, yeah, again, link's coming soon. But keep an eye out on this space where

00:42:25.568 --> 00:42:31.588

<v Doc>we're finishing building everything out. and we will be coming to you with Who Dares Streams.

00:42:31.748 --> 00:42:35.048

<v Doc>This is the name of our show and our challenge. We're going to be daring you

00:42:35.048 --> 00:42:36.328

<v Doc>to do all kinds of fun stuff.

00:42:36.888 --> 00:42:40.568

<v Doc>It'll be free and available for everyone. A really fun opportunity in April.

00:42:40.928 --> 00:42:45.848

<v Doc>So next month we'll be, yeah, we'll be popping up and having all kinds of fun.

00:42:45.948 --> 00:42:47.368

<v Doc>So I'm really excited for everyone.

00:42:47.988 --> 00:42:50.848

<v Doc>We're getting a lot of can't wait for this show. I love that Doc and Ash were

00:42:50.848 --> 00:42:54.228

<v Doc>so willing to be like, we're going to co-host this show. It's going to be a whole.

00:42:54.968 --> 00:42:59.308

<v Katie>I want to give the flow. People who are here today, Jared, I'm going to answer

00:42:59.308 --> 00:43:00.528

<v Katie>your question. I do see it.

00:43:01.708 --> 00:43:07.268

<v Katie>I'm going to give you guys a secret of mine that I think most of you kind of already know.

00:43:07.368 --> 00:43:12.328

<v Katie>But just in case you've never been here, I have no fear of making a fool out

00:43:12.328 --> 00:43:15.068

<v Katie>of myself in order to learn something.

00:43:16.028 --> 00:43:19.228

<v Katie>You know, I think we take this stuff too seriously.

00:43:19.468 --> 00:43:25.428

<v Katie>So the best part about working with the Cap Show team is they like doing goofy stuff as much as I do.

00:43:26.231 --> 00:43:30.731

<v Katie>And it's very easy for a brand who's trying to attract customers and trying

00:43:30.731 --> 00:43:34.931

<v Katie>to be a certain way to be so like polished.

00:43:35.151 --> 00:43:38.291

<v Katie>Like to this point, I'm on my third knee doctor.

00:43:38.571 --> 00:43:41.191

<v Katie>The doctor I have now, there's two things I absolutely love about him.

00:43:41.531 --> 00:43:44.371

<v Katie>Dude got nothing but jokes. We crack up the whole time we're in there.

00:43:44.551 --> 00:43:48.291

<v Katie>He's about to stab me in the knee with like a five inch needle.

00:43:48.711 --> 00:43:53.311

<v Katie>And we're laughing the whole way through. So there's no fear or tension or whatever.

00:43:53.451 --> 00:43:56.971

<v Katie>And he's a diehard Raiders fan. So, you know, that's how that worked out.

00:43:57.211 --> 00:44:01.471

<v Ash>Hard reach your knee, though. Not real doctor, but he's funny and he's a Raiders

00:44:01.471 --> 00:44:04.251

<v Ash>fan. And that trumps it right there. That trumps it.

00:44:04.271 --> 00:44:07.431

<v Katie>He's the chief of surgery at Queen's Hospital, which is one of the number one

00:44:07.431 --> 00:44:08.331

<v Katie>hospitals in the country.

00:44:08.591 --> 00:44:12.891

<v Katie>So let's not forget that part. But it's a thing.

00:44:13.011 --> 00:44:18.231

<v Katie>Like, I tend to levitate in businesses that don't take themselves so seriously.

00:44:18.251 --> 00:44:21.131

<v Katie>The kind of people that are so tight and butt to my mind. I'm not going to work

00:44:21.131 --> 00:44:23.451

<v Katie>with them because I'm going to say something goofy and they're going to get

00:44:23.451 --> 00:44:24.851

<v Katie>mad or offended or whatever.

00:44:25.751 --> 00:44:30.051

<v Katie>And even that's cool about, you know, Ken and Glenn, Ken and Glenn got jokes for days.

00:44:30.171 --> 00:44:34.611

<v Katie>Like they're super funny people. So like I, I tend to work with people that

00:44:34.611 --> 00:44:39.231

<v Katie>can enjoy a portion of levity and I watch so many people try to take this so

00:44:39.231 --> 00:44:42.371

<v Katie>seriously. And I'm like, you're struggling because you're squeezing too tight.

00:44:42.691 --> 00:44:46.271

<v Katie>Like this is not going to work. You're trying to do squats and sitting skinny

00:44:46.271 --> 00:44:48.991

<v Katie>jeans and all you're going to do is show your, um, nevermind.

00:44:49.571 --> 00:44:53.531

<v Katie>Anyway. So Jared's question was, if you're team iPhone, can you leverage the

00:44:53.531 --> 00:44:56.871

<v Katie>ability to record your conversation now and then leverage CapShow as well?

00:44:56.991 --> 00:44:59.791

<v Katie>Yes, it will accept any form of audio or video.

00:45:00.571 --> 00:45:06.291

<v Katie>So, yeah, super cool. You can just take your file, airdrop it to your computer and push it up.

00:45:07.411 --> 00:45:13.591

<v Katie>Is the web page optimized at all for web, Ash? Can you upload it?

00:45:13.691 --> 00:45:19.491

<v Ash>For mobile? Yeah. For mobile? No. So it's very much a desktop app.

00:45:19.971 --> 00:45:21.571

<v Ash>Just for the nature of it, yeah.

00:45:22.955 --> 00:45:28.515

<v Doc>But we did, we, in the challenge last year, yeah, for the challenge that we

00:45:28.515 --> 00:45:31.535

<v Doc>did last year, we, we, Doc and I did a lot of that.

00:45:31.695 --> 00:45:34.935

<v Doc>We used it for like ideation where it was like just literally talk into your

00:45:34.935 --> 00:45:39.435

<v Doc>phone, even just audio talking to your phone, drop it in and then use that to

00:45:39.435 --> 00:45:43.255

<v Doc>be like, write me the outline for what this video should be about.

00:45:43.255 --> 00:45:46.255

<v Doc>And it was pretty flawless and then we could record

00:45:46.255 --> 00:45:49.815

<v Doc>the video so you can really you could use it like ecamm into

00:45:49.815 --> 00:45:54.475

<v Doc>captcha you could use it you know captcha ecamm captcha you could use it just

00:45:54.475 --> 00:45:58.195

<v Doc>a photo you could take ecamm out of the out of the equation we hope you don't

00:45:58.195 --> 00:46:02.575

<v Doc>but you could and just do phone into into captcha but i think thinking about

00:46:02.575 --> 00:46:06.695

<v Doc>like the content creation process and making it into a really seamless workflow

00:46:06.695 --> 00:46:08.575

<v Doc>like this it's just going to save you a ton of

00:46:08.655 --> 00:46:12.335

<v Doc>and make the whole experience better. You should be focusing on the.

00:46:12.335 --> 00:46:15.035

<v Katie>Experience and the people. But yeah, I did that.

00:46:15.035 --> 00:46:16.735

<v Doc>Yeah, we were all over that. I just used it for ideation.

00:46:16.835 --> 00:46:22.475

<v Katie>It's super fun. So I think, again, to the point that Ash made earlier about

00:46:22.475 --> 00:46:26.455

<v Katie>don't just stare at the box and think like I got to work inside the box.

00:46:26.695 --> 00:46:30.255

<v Katie>Like, yo, I'm the dude with the big fat crayons all outside the lines.

00:46:30.515 --> 00:46:32.215

<v Katie>Yes, you go outside the lines.

00:46:32.675 --> 00:46:35.895

<v Katie>That's a good podcast too. Awesome.

00:46:35.895 --> 00:46:38.995

<v Ash>We should get in. That's the thing. I've got so many podcast ideas,

00:46:39.135 --> 00:46:40.375

<v Ash>and they're all nonsense, generally.

00:46:42.175 --> 00:46:44.695

<v Ash>There's a little, I guess there's got to be some thread, but I'm like,

00:46:44.775 --> 00:46:48.935

<v Ash>I just need to find someone who can, you know, rip in. As you said,

00:46:48.995 --> 00:46:50.295

<v Ash>you find that one person.

00:46:51.435 --> 00:46:57.195

<v Doc>Ash is looking for a new podcast co-host, so please list your recommendations

00:46:57.195 --> 00:47:01.435

<v Doc>here in the comments or email us at flowanducam.com.

00:47:01.435 --> 00:47:07.495

<v Katie>Listen, Jared said the whole show right there. Family, just be human.

00:47:07.695 --> 00:47:13.315

<v Doc>Just be human. Be friends with robots, but be human on camera.

00:47:15.495 --> 00:47:16.415

<v Katie>That's good, Katie.

00:47:17.075 --> 00:47:22.675

<v Doc>Yeah. I've been having a blast with it. Well, Ash, I really appreciate you taking the time to come on.

00:47:22.875 --> 00:47:26.655

<v Doc>And a huge thank you to you and the whole team at Cap Show for always being

00:47:26.655 --> 00:47:27.715

<v Doc>a little bit silly with us.

00:47:27.795 --> 00:47:33.875

<v Doc>Because it makes the spring so much more fun for all of us. I'm excited. I'm excited for April.

00:47:34.275 --> 00:47:36.995

<v Ash>That's why we're doing it again. because when we vibe like when we did

00:47:36.995 --> 00:47:40.095

<v Ash>last year's one we were like to that to to

00:47:40.095 --> 00:47:43.175

<v Ash>your point to doc's point i don't think we've worked with anyone else

00:47:43.175 --> 00:47:46.655

<v Ash>or other companies that kind of feel like you're

00:47:46.655 --> 00:47:49.475

<v Ash>a part of us and we're a part of you if that makes sense and we're

00:47:49.475 --> 00:47:53.715

<v Ash>like and from day one we're like that call was great like i think this is going

00:47:53.715 --> 00:47:57.095

<v Ash>to be amazing and then what we delivered we were like we have to run it back

00:47:57.095 --> 00:48:01.315

<v Ash>and yeah it's it's so nice because to your point there's so much rubbish in

00:48:01.315 --> 00:48:03.895

<v Ash>the world or there's so many stresses that we can put on ourselves and it's

00:48:03.895 --> 00:48:07.015

<v Ash>like life It should not be serious, have fun with it.

00:48:07.624 --> 00:48:11.364

<v Ash>You know, adapt to it. And then that's how we, what, that's what you'll see.

00:48:11.584 --> 00:48:12.124

<v Katie>It makes this a good outlet.

00:48:12.484 --> 00:48:12.944

<v Ash>Definitely in our show.

00:48:12.964 --> 00:48:16.624

<v Katie>You know what I mean? It gives you a chance to have an outlet to go look forward

00:48:16.624 --> 00:48:20.324

<v Katie>to something that has a little bit of levity to it. I said that yesterday, right?

00:48:20.504 --> 00:48:23.084

<v Katie>Like I think levity is super, super important.

00:48:23.684 --> 00:48:27.984

<v Katie>And man, listen, if you guys could have been a fly on the wall of what was our

00:48:27.984 --> 00:48:31.464

<v Katie>quote unquote corporate meeting yesterday with Ash and I were like planning

00:48:31.464 --> 00:48:33.304

<v Katie>this show, it was super stupid.

00:48:33.664 --> 00:48:40.704

<v Katie>We were just cracking the whole time. And Bonner's like, seriously, um guys coming

00:48:40.704 --> 00:48:42.544

<v Doc>To you in april get ready everyone.

00:48:42.544 --> 00:48:45.504

<v Ash>We could have recorded that we could have recorded out mating

00:48:45.504 --> 00:48:48.384

<v Katie>That's what she kept saying right she's like we should just record this whole

00:48:48.384 --> 00:48:52.964

<v Katie>thing because you guys are broken yeah so if you like to see what broken toys

00:48:52.964 --> 00:48:56.944

<v Katie>look like when they work this would be us come and check out uh who dare stream

00:48:56.944 --> 00:49:01.744

<v Katie>it's such an incredible concept and yeah i mean you guys know it's going to

00:49:01.744 --> 00:49:06.404

<v Katie>be good because they made their company uh logo uh sloth I

00:49:06.404 --> 00:49:09.584

<v Ash>Was going to say, can you see it? Where is he? No, go this way.

00:49:09.584 --> 00:49:10.344

<v Katie>One guy's hiding.

00:49:11.104 --> 00:49:13.544

<v Ash>That's it. He's just hiding behind the legs. He's hiding behind the legs.

00:49:13.544 --> 00:49:17.864

<v Ash>He's my favorite. I think this is my favorite Capture show. Just that's it. Capture drip.

00:49:20.784 --> 00:49:25.924

<v Doc>Well, we did it. We got to the end of another episode, which I've always marveled.

00:49:26.444 --> 00:49:29.364

<v Doc>People, it's so funny. Everyone for the longest time was like,

00:49:29.684 --> 00:49:30.744

<v Doc>you know, how do you do a show?

00:49:30.884 --> 00:49:35.124

<v Doc>How do you do a show week after week after week? An hour passes by in seconds

00:49:35.124 --> 00:49:38.404

<v Doc>when you are with people that you enjoy spending time with.

00:49:39.064 --> 00:49:42.364

<v Doc>It never ceases to amaze me. It's just gone. Like an hour gone.

00:49:42.764 --> 00:49:46.264

<v Ash>I try and keep our show to an hour and a half with my brother,

00:49:46.284 --> 00:49:51.364

<v Ash>and I'm putting out close to three hour episodes because we just can't stop talking. So no, an hour

00:49:51.364 --> 00:49:52.024

<v Katie>Is just like-

00:49:52.204 --> 00:49:52.444

<v Ash>Yeah.

00:49:54.022 --> 00:49:57.882

<v Katie>You know, it's funny, Katie, when you say that about like, you know,

00:49:58.022 --> 00:49:59.302

<v Katie>the process of doing this.

00:49:59.862 --> 00:50:03.202

<v Katie>Again, if you're trying to make it so serious and you're forgetting the whole

00:50:03.202 --> 00:50:08.402

<v Katie>point is to connect with people, then you get stuck on like this is hard.

00:50:08.722 --> 00:50:12.102

<v Katie>Right. If you sit down like, oh, this is going to be great. It comes out great.

00:50:12.262 --> 00:50:15.722

<v Katie>And even for us, and I've said this many times on the episodes where we're not

00:50:15.722 --> 00:50:19.042

<v Katie>even sure what to record because we've been traveling or we got busy and we

00:50:19.042 --> 00:50:20.162

<v Katie>just crack the mic and go.

00:50:20.162 --> 00:50:23.942

<v Katie>Those sometimes turn out to be our best shows because

00:50:23.942 --> 00:50:26.782

<v Katie>there's just a level of all right we're just

00:50:26.782 --> 00:50:31.022

<v Katie>going to go have fun do a open mailbag or open q a and just ask you guys questions

00:50:31.022 --> 00:50:35.642

<v Katie>and you guys always come through so yeah the listen we can't do this without

00:50:35.642 --> 00:50:39.342

<v Katie>flow riders so i appreciate all you guys for coming through today and hanging

00:50:39.342 --> 00:50:44.102

<v Katie>out with us in the dude that speaks with the weird audio filter i

00:50:44.102 --> 00:50:47.802

<v Ash>Wish you told me about the the the audience are called flow riders i would have

00:50:47.802 --> 00:50:49.122

<v Ash>dropped that in too i love that

00:50:49.122 --> 00:50:51.142

<v Katie>Oh yeah that's us

00:50:54.262 --> 00:50:59.162

<v Katie>yes exactly remember to pop that like button yes yeah we

00:50:59.162 --> 00:51:00.082

<v Doc>Really appreciate it.

00:51:00.082 --> 00:51:00.742

<v Katie>Well i can't wait

00:51:01.582 --> 00:51:05.722

<v Doc>I'm loving that we're now changing sponsors by episode because that means that

00:51:05.722 --> 00:51:09.202

<v Doc>doc can talk all about cap show here at the end which i think is fantastic.

00:51:09.202 --> 00:51:14.602

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00:51:54.022 --> 00:51:57.242

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00:51:57.362 --> 00:52:00.242

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00:52:00.242 --> 00:52:04.242

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00:52:07.877 --> 00:52:09.737

<v Doc>I love it.

00:52:10.137 --> 00:52:13.277

<v Katie>All right, Flo Riders. Don't forget, every Tuesday, live taping right here.

00:52:13.437 --> 00:52:16.357

<v Katie>This is the hookup. This is the hangout. This is where you come to have fun.

00:52:16.977 --> 00:52:23.197

<v Katie>And yeah, Katie and I are going to be Oscar Mike next week. Sorry, on the move.

00:52:25.297 --> 00:52:29.977

<v Katie>I was watching some military stuff yesterday, so my brain is in full drill sergeant mode.

00:52:29.977 --> 00:52:30.917

<v Doc>We're going to be on the move.

00:52:30.917 --> 00:52:33.837

<v Katie>When you come to my show in an hour, you're going to be like,

00:52:33.897 --> 00:52:35.177

<v Katie>oh, God, he's on one today.

00:52:36.397 --> 00:52:40.757

<v Katie>He's in drill sergeant mode. anyway don't forget to come through we're always

00:52:40.757 --> 00:52:46.297

<v Katie>recording on tuesdays but we are going to be out of town next week so and then

00:52:46.297 --> 00:52:50.497

<v Katie>i'll be out of town the week after so the week next man listen english

00:52:51.457 --> 00:52:55.177

<v Katie>when it the word says april the first one i'm not going to be here neither is

00:52:55.177 --> 00:52:59.877

<v Katie>katie on the second one it'll be katie and who knows i don't know we got that far

00:52:59.877 --> 00:53:04.537

<v Doc>Yet katie's left to her own devices i i should say uh if if any of you have

00:53:04.537 --> 00:53:05.737

<v Doc>any questions that you want us

00:53:05.737 --> 00:53:10.177

<v Doc>to ask well we are at podcastmovementevolutions or, well, doc is at NAB.

00:53:10.997 --> 00:53:16.237

<v Doc>Definitely drop those in flow.ecam.com or email them directly flow at ecam.com.

00:53:16.357 --> 00:53:19.757

<v Doc>We're happy to ask any of those questions for you or hunt down the information

00:53:19.757 --> 00:53:21.697

<v Doc>or record videos on site while we're there.

00:53:21.837 --> 00:53:25.377

<v Doc>So yeah, we're off to podcastmovementevolutions in Chicago next week and then

00:53:25.377 --> 00:53:27.417

<v Doc>NAB in Las Vegas the following week.

00:53:27.697 --> 00:53:32.197

<v Katie>Yeah, so on Thursday, we're gonna do a NAB sort of pregame. So if you have questions

00:53:32.197 --> 00:53:35.797

<v Katie>about gear or things you want me to take to certain companies and go stand in

00:53:35.797 --> 00:53:37.777

<v Katie>front of them and yell at them for you, let me know.

00:53:38.437 --> 00:53:42.297

<v Katie>You got some questions you have for any of the, you know, stuff that you like

00:53:42.297 --> 00:53:44.457

<v Katie>to use that, you know, you might not be able to get to NAB.

00:53:44.677 --> 00:53:48.837

<v Katie>We're going to do a sort of a pregame on Thursday with Paul and Jill and Mary Lou and myself.

00:53:49.037 --> 00:53:53.137

<v Katie>So come and bring that info over to us so I can take it and put it in the right

00:53:53.137 --> 00:53:55.837

<v Katie>hands of the right folks. We will get you twisted.

00:53:56.097 --> 00:53:59.597

<v Katie>All right. That was awesome. So at this time in the show, Ash,

00:53:59.737 --> 00:54:05.477

<v Katie>we have a thing and we say, and it's Floor Riders! Out! Out!

00:54:05.857 --> 00:54:06.977

<v Doc>Out! Bye, everyone.

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<v Music>