The Flow: Episode 103 - Empowering the Next Generation of Creators with Code & Circuit

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<v Ken>Welcome, welcome, welcome back to another edition of the Flow Video Podcast. We are so excited.

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<v Ken>I somehow tricked both Ken and Lori to hang out with me here today.

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<v Ken>And it is a special episode because we are joining hundreds of other podcasters

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<v Ken>this week in recording episodes as part of Podcast-thon, which is kind of tricky

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<v Ken>to say, but a really incredible cause.

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<v Ken>So podcasters from all over the world are joining together to help raise up

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<v Ken>and feature some incredible charities.

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<v Ken>And we are hanging out with Ken and Lori today to talk all about Code and Circuit.

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<v Ken>So as our incredible moderator, Paul, dropped in the comments,

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<v Ken>we're actually not going to ask Ken any Ecamm questions today.

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<v Ken>We're only going to talk about Code and Circuit or the usual podcasting stuff.

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<v Ken>But really excited for everyone to be here. We have our live studio audience hanging out with us.

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<v Ken>So if you have any questions about Code and Circuit or about Podcast feel free

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<v Ken>to drop those into the comments. We'll make sure that we feature those and ask them.

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<v Ken>But let's jump right in. Welcome, Ken.

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<v Lori>Welcome, Laurie. LAURIE KINGER- Thank you.

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<v Katie>How are you doing?

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<v Ken>I'm good. Really, really good today. Well, I want to kick it off with a question

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<v Ken>for Ken. What is Code in Circuit, and when did it start?

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<v Katie>So Ecamm Live 4.4. No, I'm just kidding.

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<v Katie>CodeCircuit is a non-profit computer science classroom that I founded about

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<v Katie>10 years ago here in my town.

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<v Katie>And what we do is kids come in after school or in the summer or over breaks to learn about coding,

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<v Katie>robotics, and other computer science topics like circuitry and things like that.

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<v Katie>And also, during the day, we have homeschool students come in.

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<v Katie>So, it's pretty busy here at Code and Circuit, pretty much, with the brightest

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<v Katie>kids in town learning computer science.

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<v Ken>Yeah, yeah. And there are robots here all the time. Laurie is constantly lifting robots.

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<v Lori>Yes, indeed. Yes.

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<v Ken>So, how long has Code and Circuit been around, Laurie?

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<v Lori>So i met ken when he

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<v Lori>was um launching code and circuit so that

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<v Lori>was gosh back in 2013 he

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<v Lori>launched in 2014 if i remember

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<v Lori>that um at the time i was just running my own business full circle classrooms

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<v Lori>and starting a micro school and i ran into canada local coffee shop And we started

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<v Lori>a partnership right away where my students would come in during the day,

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<v Lori>every Friday, and engage in things related to computer science. Then fast forward.

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<v Lori>Let's see, after COVID, Ken decided he was ready to hand over the torch.

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<v Lori>And so let's see, 2021, I started as the executive director of Code & Circuit.

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<v Lori>And we have just expanded since that.

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<v Katie>Yeah, Lori was, like she said, always involved with Code and Circuit right from the beginning.

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<v Katie>And then she was on my board of directors.

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<v Katie>And I told the board, yeah, in 2021, was it?

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<v Katie>I said, I want to hire an executive director. If anybody knows anybody who might

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<v Katie>be good for this role, I'm going to start looking for somebody to run the show over there.

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<v Katie>And Lori said, emailed or texted me right after the meeting and she was like i'll do it

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<v Katie>and so ever since then we've really been able to

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<v Katie>expand what we do here at the classroom beyond just me and volunteers to um

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<v Katie>to laurie being the executive director not only does it sound cool to have an

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<v Katie>executive director and it is really cool um because she she's this is her area

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<v Katie>of expertise, this education.

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<v Katie>Um, and, um, that was, that was, uh, a huge part of, of, of why I thought she'd

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<v Katie>be, she'd be great in this role.

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<v Katie>And, and, um, then, uh, um, um,

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<v Katie>What was your question?

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<v Ken>Sorry. How long did it be around for? You guys answered the question.

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<v Ken>Paul has dropped into the comments here that if you want to learn more about

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<v Ken>Code & Circuit or support Code & Circuit, you can swing over to codeandcircuit.org

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<v Ken>slash support, support-us, I believe it is.

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<v Ken>But yeah, this is a really great organization because it is giving back to the

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<v Ken>community and it is just so incredible to see some of the projects that the kids work on.

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<v Ken>Laurie, I know there have been like, a ton of new programs in all different

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<v Ken>kinds of topics over the last couple of years. What are some of the favorite

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<v Ken>classes you have these days?

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<v Lori>Yeah, well, when I started back in 2021, we were a STEM organization with a

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<v Lori>focus on computer science.

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<v Lori>And since then, we've expanded to STEAM to include the arts as well.

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<v Lori>And that's been a great addition to draw in a diverse student body.

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<v Lori>And I think another thing that's really helped us grow and reach a larger audience

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<v Lori>is we started out as just one small classroom.

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<v Lori>And then when Ken brought me on spring of 2021, we decided to lease a larger

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<v Lori>space in addition to our original classroom.

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<v Lori>Then I decided, well, since I work with schools, you know, have worked as an

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<v Lori>educator for decades, let's expand out into schools and start a robotics and residence program. So

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<v Lori>The robotics in residence program has been extremely empowering for students

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<v Lori>when we do visit schools.

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<v Lori>And then here in our classrooms, boy, our robotics programs have really expanded

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<v Lori>in the past couple of years.

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<v Lori>Ken, I'm sure, is going to talk a little bit about First Tech Challenge and that team.

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<v Lori>I've led a first Lego League, and we've had some amazing instructors and volunteers

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<v Lori>come in to help out with all of these, whether it's an animation class,

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<v Lori>whether it's a robotics class.

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<v Lori>It's been just amazing to grow and bring in more and more students every year.

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<v Ken>Yeah, it's really incredible, too, the work that you've done,

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<v Ken>making it really equitable and accessible to everyone as well.

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<v Ken>So, you know, we're here in Amesbury, Massachusetts, but there's obviously a

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<v Ken>ton of towns and communities that surround this area and the act of getting

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<v Ken>out into the schools and reaching people,

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<v Ken>I mean, all the way into New York City, you were at one point, right?

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<v Ken>To bring like this level of learning out to kids, I think is so hugely important

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<v Ken>because it is the future, right?

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<v Ken>Is that what you envisioned when you first started Code and Circuit?

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<v Ken>Like, what was the mission behind it originally?

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<v Katie>The mission was to teach kids about computer science.

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<v Katie>I'm someone who is really all about the details. I'm not a big picture thinker,

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<v Katie>and I just wanted to create something really cool right here in town.

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<v Katie>Sometimes people ask me, you know, you need to expand this to be some kind of

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<v Katie>a national chain or something like that. That's never really been my goal. Yeah.

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<v Katie>Maybe someday but uh i'm always just trying to keep just trying to keep it really

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<v Katie>fun and interesting and and always have something new for these for these kids

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<v Katie>to see um a lot of people know us now for the for the boston dynamic spot robot

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<v Katie>that we have here um in about

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<v Katie>2021 or something i thought we need something to like kind of revitalize the

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<v Katie>code and circuit after being shut down for a year something to

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<v Katie>get the energy back and so we're right here in the boston

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<v Katie>area actually pretty close

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<v Katie>to boston dynamics and um so i

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<v Katie>got in touch with them and tried to find out how you

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<v Katie>get one of those spot robots and um

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<v Katie>decided we would we would buy one for the classroom and they were going to ship

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<v Katie>it to me and i was trying to save money so i said i'll just come and get it

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<v Katie>so i just drove down to to boston amix and we loaded spot into my trunk and

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<v Katie>i drove away and i said wait they didn't even ask me for money

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<v Ken>They were just like here to show up.

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<v Katie>I mean i guess the way they usually do things like uh it's different than that

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<v Katie>but uh uh we eventually paid but um having the spot uh i thought would just

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<v Katie>be something that would be cool having around the classroom and i think that was like

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<v Katie>early spring and laurie had

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<v Katie>the idea that we could bring the the robot to schools and

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<v Katie>so that spring of 2021 we did kind of a test run and we brought spot down to

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<v Katie>the local elementary school and it was such an incredible hit um that that the

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<v Katie>next year i think laurie was in and out of schools pretty much every day bringing the robot to

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<v Ken>How's your back doing, Lori?

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<v Katie>No comment on the back. So now when new kids come here for classes and they

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<v Katie>see the robot, they go, that was at my school.

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<v Katie>I don't think there's a school in the area that hasn't had Spot come for the day

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<v Katie>and visit and do presentations. Lori is doing presentations for everybody with the robot, right, Lori?

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<v Lori>Yes. And, you know, I think that was a way where I was able to tie in what I'm

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<v Lori>passionate about with education,

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<v Lori>which is educating the whole child and helping kids understand that every child

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<v Lori>has a gift. Every child has unique gifts.

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<v Lori>And through my presentations, I'm able to relate how we as humans started with

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<v Lori>a base code and how we grow our code and how SPOTS code started with a base

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<v Lori>code and how our high school interns and can have helped to elevate its code.

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<v Lori>So, and I think with that program, it's been incredibly rewarding,

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<v Lori>not only to serve the local schools, but also, as Katie mentioned,

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<v Lori>to provide equity to access.

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<v Lori>So, we've been into Malden, Haverhill, Lawrence, Dorchester,

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<v Lori>Boston, providing opportunities for students that may not have had the same

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<v Lori>exposure to technology.

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<v Lori>And bringing it to them so that

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<v Lori>it is possible for them to understand and learn about robotics as well.

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<v Lori>So it's been exciting to get out and expand Code & Circuit through that lens.

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<v Katie>And if you want to hear more about what we're doing with Spot,

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<v Katie>go to the Boston Dynamics YouTube channel and sort by latest videos and scroll back a little bit.

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<v Katie>Because they did a really cool case study on our use of the robot and made an

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<v Katie>incredibly interesting

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<v Katie>professional video is about three or four minutes long of us um of laurie and

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<v Katie>i and our students talking about how we use the robot here and that was just

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<v Katie>really really a fun fun experience to get featured on there on their youtube

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<v Ken>I think it's really it's neat and it must have been you know as you were saying

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<v Ken>like they just let you take that robot i i feel like it must have been so novel

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<v Ken>for them as well because they're in this industry where they're they're making

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<v Ken>robots for all these different use cases,

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<v Ken>none of them being teach kids about robotics.

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<v Katie>Or at least not at that time. Right. They're working more and more on it.

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<v Katie>Problem is it's an expensive robot.

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<v Katie>And so I feel like by the way we're doing it, where we own the robot and Lori brings it for the day,

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<v Katie>definitely more cost effective for the schools than trying to figure out how

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<v Katie>to get their own. You know, so.

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<v Ken>Yeah. I mean, I think it's really neat because these days,

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<v Ken>you know, kids are growing up certainly much more surrounded by technology than

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<v Ken>we were as kids and the ability to get to see it in schools and see how it can

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<v Ken>be applicable beyond fun,

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<v Ken>like applicable beyond just like I'm playing a video game or I'm doing like,

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<v Ken>how do I, how do I build these things? How do I make these things?

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<v Ken>How do I, how do I also be part of a larger community? I think like what you're

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<v Ken>doing as well with the first tech program is really neat. Do you want to speak

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<v Ken>a little bit about that, Ken?

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<v Katie>Sure. Yeah. First is a nonprofit started in this area,

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<v Katie>actually, but it's now worldwide, where the The idea is these robot leagues that compete,

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<v Katie>usually based in a high school or a middle school,

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<v Katie>to create robots to play a specific game each year.

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<v Katie>And then there's local competitions, there's state championships and world championships for these robots.

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<v Katie>They have a number of different leagues, all the way from a Lego league for

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<v Katie>younger kids to a high school program called First Robotics Program.

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<v Katie>But they created a league in the middle called First Tech Challenge,

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<v Katie>where you're building a slightly smaller, more manageable robot.

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<v Katie>And those teams are from middle school and high school.

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<v Katie>And last year, we started our first team for that league. Our first, first team.

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<v Katie>And it was it has been a really fun experience uh working all year on this robot

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<v Katie>uh with a really great group of kids and then actually going and competing

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<v Katie>and i don't know if you've ever seen one of these before but they they treat

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<v Katie>it like a sport i mean there's like there's like teams everyone's got their

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<v Katie>got their uniforms and there's referees and coaches and a very fast-paced competition day in brackets.

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<v Katie>I've never experienced anything like it. And for these kids to get to do it every year,

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<v Katie>And the longer they're on the team, the better they get at this stuff to the point where...

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<v Katie>Our team is new, but I've spoken to coaches in other towns that have been doing it for decades,

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<v Katie>and they say that their older kids run the whole show and are so skilled at

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<v Katie>it by the end of this six or seven year experience that they're like incredibly

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<v Katie>knowledgeable about robotics and team management and all the things that they do.

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<v Ken>The sense of community that goes into it is really like wild.

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<v Ken>I guess it's something you wouldn't necessarily think of. You know,

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<v Ken>I'm sure when you were first approaching and thinking about Code and Circuit,

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<v Ken>it was like, we're going to teach kids computer science.

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<v Ken>We're going to teach kids coding. But I think now, I mean, in many ways,

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<v Ken>because of Lori's educational background and kind of what you're bringing to it,

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<v Ken>it really is fostering this like sense of leadership and purpose and community

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<v Ken>and being part of a team and being part of a group.

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<v Ken>So I love that the first programs specifically at Code and Circuit are helping

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<v Ken>the kids develop very different skills than they probably think.

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<v Ken>Like for them, it's fun. We're building a robot.

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<v Ken>But there was even one kid who I won't name by name, but she was incredible.

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<v Ken>Like she built the entire notebook and planning guide.

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<v Ken>And for the longest time, just seeing the chats coming back and forth,

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<v Ken>I completely thought that this child was an adult. like how organized she was.

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<v Ken>But I think so it's not overly often that they get that opportunity.

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<v Lori>Yes. And, you know, I think what we're doing way beyond teaching computer science

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<v Lori>and classes related to STEAM is we're providing youth with opportunities to

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<v Lori>grow their life skills, soft skills, real world skills that they're going to

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<v Lori>need later on in the life. And, you know, we have the first tech program.

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<v Lori>We also had, we launched a program this year called Future City,

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<v Lori>which was an engineering challenge.

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<v Lori>Students in, we had fifth and sixth graders who were competing in,

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<v Lori>against teams across New England.

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<v Lori>And their goal was to build a model to scale of a futuristic city,

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<v Lori>in the process, they're having to speak in front of panels of judges,

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<v Lori>they're having to collaborate,

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<v Lori>they're having to make difficult decisions, and they're having to manage their time, write an essay.

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<v Lori>And those types of skills are skills they're going to be able to use later on in life.

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<v Lori>And when you talk about teams and the bonding,

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<v Lori>We had a zero robotics team two summers ago, and through that process,

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<v Lori>we had students come together and they spent five weeks throughout the summer working on coding,

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<v Lori>Learning about NASA, learning about space, and then they eventually worked on

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<v Lori>code for a satellite on the International Space Station.

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<v Lori>And that's a program we're going to be able to offer again this summer for the middle school level.

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<v Lori>And again, it's more than just

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<v Lori>they're learning how to build a robot or they're learning how to code.

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<v Lori>It's this opportunity where it's like a family here.

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<v Lori>And they come here and they're able to connect with others and really collaborate

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<v Lori>and work on these skills when they don't even realize they're working on them.

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<v Lori>Um, so it's, it's pretty, it's pretty interesting to watch and see how they

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<v Lori>mature and see how they take on leadership roles.

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<v Lori>Um, and on the, the topic of skills, like some of our classes right now are

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<v Lori>geared toward Minecraft.

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<v Lori>We have students who are learning to code in Minecraft.

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<v Lori>We have students who are, um, guided in collaborative Minecraft builds.

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<v Lori>And not only are they coding in Minecraft and building in Minecraft,

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<v Lori>but at the same time, the focus is on the social emotional skills.

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<v Lori>We're building their emotional quotient, their ability to communicate,

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<v Lori>navigate, solve conflicts as they game, and gaming is...

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<v Lori>What our kids are engaged in a lot of the time.

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<v Lori>So providing them with guidance on how they can code and game in a way that

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<v Lori>is positive, in a way that is kind, in a way that is respectful,

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<v Lori>it really trickles down even into our classes.

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<v Ken>Absolutely. Well, I do, so if you're just joining us right now or you're catching

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<v Ken>this later in the replay or out on your favorite podcast player,

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<v Ken>this episode is part of a week-long event that is hosted by Podcast Thon.

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<v Ken>So we are talking about incredible organizations like Code and Circuit that

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<v Ken>are giving back to communities.

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<v Ken>There are likely organizations like this in your own community that you could

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<v Ken>get involved with or, you know, be part of.

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<v Ken>Organizations like this really need all of our help. So if you are listening

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<v Ken>or watching today and you are able to give back either with your time or with

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<v Ken>your finances, we would love your support.

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<v Ken>There is a link in the description in the show notes where you can support Code

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<v Ken>& Circuit. If you're interested in supporting Code & Circuit,

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<v Ken>we would super appreciate that.

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<v Ken>We are raising all kinds of funds to be able to support various programs that

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<v Ken>are happening here that you've been hearing all about.

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<v Ken>What are some of the new programs or big programs that you're excited about

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<v Ken>this spring and this summer?

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<v Lori>This spring and summer, for certain, we're excited about.

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<v Lori>Ken's going to be running a rocketry program this summer.

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<v Lori>We are having students learn how to code drones and build robots,

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<v Lori>CodeSpot, lots of really amazing opportunities that we'll have in the spring

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<v Lori>and then into the summer as well.

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<v Lori>And what Katie mentioned about our nonprofit, we are a very small nonprofit

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<v Lori>and yet we still, we offer scholarships for students. We offer financial assistance for families.

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<v Lori>Most recently, we have a student who's coming in who is homeless and through

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<v Lori>a program in Lawrence, they're going to be coming in and have an opportunity to engage here.

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<v Lori>And so all of these programs, we try to provide equity to access.

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<v Lori>And the more we have individuals and organizations who are willing and able

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<v Lori>to support us, the more we're able to grow our programs and provide for kindergarten

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<v Lori>through 12th graders here in the area.

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<v Ken>Absolutely. It's so hugely important. What are you most excited about this summer, Ken?

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<v Katie>This summer?

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<v Ken>Yes.

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<v Katie>I've never done one of these model rocketry classes.

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<v Katie>My goal for it is that we're going to do a little bit of rocket science,

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<v Katie>learn about the details, the math.

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<v Katie>Then we're going to get to work designing some model rockets.

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<v Katie>There might be some 3D printed aspects to it.

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<v Katie>And then build them. And then potentially do some work around a computerized

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<v Katie>launcher, which should be really cool.

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<v Katie>And then we'll go somewhere, I guess, in the summer and launch these things.

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<v Katie>It's only a four-day camp. So I've got to be realistic about it. My management needs

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<v Ken>Kids to help you with the time they need.

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<v Katie>Yeah, I always plan a lot more than we end up doing. but it's going to be I

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<v Katie>think it's going to be really fun and if it works out we'll keep doing it you know as a class

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<v Ken>Absolutely well it's been awesome for us

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<v Ken>here at Ecamm because A Code and Circle is just literally down the hall so we

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<v Ken>get to hear the robot and see the kids excitement and be all running around

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<v Ken>but B it like it really has raised up a generation of you know you've not been

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<v Ken>doing it for long enough that there are kids who are now you know teenagers and young adults that.

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<v Katie>Are graduated from college from college

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<v Ken>That are helping you know we have an intern that helps with a bunch of the stuff.

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<v Katie>Here yeah ecamm

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<v Ken>So it is it is amazing the difference that it's making even like just here in

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<v Ken>our own like little mini ecosystem in names.

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<v Katie>Yeah i mean if what i love most

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<v Katie>about what we do here is that you could have a um you could

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<v Katie>have someone come in here for i

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<v Katie>don't know what you know for a workshop or something get inspired beg their

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<v Katie>parents to sign them up for classes spend five years you know eighth ninth tenth

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<v Katie>eleventh fifth grade here as at the classroom go and that could influence their

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<v Katie>their choice of of their higher education

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<v Katie>and their actual career and um

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<v Katie>you know let's say hypothetically that was a family that was

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<v Katie>that was you know on the poverty line or something and now you've got this now

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<v Katie>you've got a family member with an engineering job you know you're you're lifting

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<v Katie>people's situation up potentially a lot at that point yeah that's pretty cool

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<v Katie>and i think that happens more than people realize um

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<v Katie>with charities like this, that we make a real difference in these kids' trajectories in life.

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<v Katie>And I've seen kids from here go into computer science, engineering,

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<v Katie>mechanical engineering, even rocket science.

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<v Katie>And that's just really cool to see.

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<v Ken>Yeah. It makes it feel possible for these kids, right?

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<v Ken>Like, even if they're only exposed to it in a visit that Lori does to their

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<v Ken>school and they're not able to actually get in and participate in the class, like,

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<v Ken>the schools, particularly public schools, don't have the funding or the resources

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<v Ken>or the, you know, in many cases, even the skill set to be able to offer that to these kids.

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<v Ken>And it's a huge part of certainly where the world is right now and definitely

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<v Ken>where the world is going.

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<v Ken>And so, I think it's really great to be able to bring that into as many schools as possible.

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<v Lori>Yes. And, you know, when we think about summer,

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<v Lori>one thing regarding our students who have now moved on and they're in college,

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<v Lori>watching them grow and mature over the years from, you know,

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<v Lori>an early teen to graduating from high school while they're in high school, interning here.

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<v Lori>We have several that have interned and are now coming back as instructors here at Code and Circuit.

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<v Lori>And, you know, having that opportunity for high school students to mentor younger students,

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<v Lori>our college students to mentor high school students and the younger students

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<v Lori>is just a great, it's great to see them have that, take on those leadership roles.

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<v Lori>But also it's preparing them for...

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<v Lori>The future while also serving as role

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<v Lori>models for our younger students it's been it's just

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<v Lori>great to see them come back summer after summer and give and we have some interns

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<v Lori>that are here the entire summer volunteering their time um and that role model

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<v Lori>the role models that they're being for our younger students um who then say i want to be an intern can

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<v Katie>When when can i intern they're like they're like 10 I'm like

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<v Ken>Oh soon.

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<v Katie>It has to be next year

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<v Ken>Yeah I mean it's it's

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<v Ken>again it's creating a place and a space for them to feel you

00:27:06.670 --> 00:27:09.510

<v Ken>know part of the team welcomed and and

00:27:09.510 --> 00:27:12.450

<v Ken>fun and you know a place where they can go that's you know

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<v Ken>not into stores downtown or wandering

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<v Ken>around or getting into trouble so I think it's really it's a

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<v Ken>great opportunity awesome well what what

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<v Ken>have I not asked you that you want to share about

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<v Ken>with everyone so again if you're just joining us this is

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<v Ken>the code and circuit team you can learn more about code and circuit at code

00:27:32.590 --> 00:27:37.450

<v Ken>and circuit dot org this is a non-profit organization here in amesbury massachusetts

00:27:37.450 --> 00:27:42.130

<v Ken>that's giving back in the world of robotics and coding and computer science

00:27:42.130 --> 00:27:46.490

<v Ken>and all of those fun tech spaces what did i miss what i miss ken you didn't.

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<v Katie>Ask me uh what company makes the best microphones

00:27:53.370 --> 00:27:57.030

<v Ken>Yes i didn't ask you what company makes the best microphones so we're gonna get to.

00:27:57.030 --> 00:27:57.810

<v Katie>That that's later

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<v Ken>We're gonna get to that later because right now we're talking code and circuit

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<v Ken>gonna stay on theme yeah okay yeah,

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<v Ken>uh laurie what did i what did i miss gosh.

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<v Lori>I'm i i think we covered a lot of topics i would just share that um thanks to

00:28:14.630 --> 00:28:18.950

<v Lori>the amesbury cultural council and the massachusetts cultural council Also,

00:28:19.110 --> 00:28:23.570

<v Lori>we are offering free workshops this spring and animation for adults.

00:28:24.090 --> 00:28:29.690

<v Lori>We're also doing some outreach to different communities that we haven't done

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<v Lori>before. So that's pretty exciting.

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<v Lori>Katie has volunteered to host another podcasting session, which we're super

00:28:38.590 --> 00:28:42.570

<v Lori>excited about because students get very interested in that.

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<v Ken>They care with the mics.

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<v Katie>Yeah.

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<v Lori>And we're gearing up for our scholarship drive, so looking for donors who are willing to

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<v Lori>toward our scholarship drive. And then we do give out scholarships in the spring

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<v Lori>for seniors who have been a part of our program and are entering into college

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<v Lori>in a computer science-related program.

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<v Ken>Yeah. So hopefully Louise can drop our graphic in here so we can share with all of you.

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<v Ken>But this is our call out to all of you, whether you are watching.

00:29:17.929 --> 00:29:21.269

<v Ken>I see someone watching all the way from Sweden, or you're here in the U.S.,

00:29:21.269 --> 00:29:24.329

<v Ken>or you're local here in Amesbury, Massachusetts. She says, we'd love,

00:29:24.549 --> 00:29:25.509

<v Ken>love, love, love your help.

00:29:25.609 --> 00:29:27.909

<v Ken>So you can swing on over to codeandcircuit.org.

00:29:28.049 --> 00:29:32.809

<v Ken>You can scan these QR codes, but we are looking for sponsors in all bytes,

00:29:33.369 --> 00:29:36.029

<v Ken>bytes, kilobytes, megabytes, gigabytes, and terabytes.

00:29:36.609 --> 00:29:40.669

<v Ken>We would really, really love your support in helping us to spread this word

00:29:40.669 --> 00:29:44.669

<v Ken>and get more kids through these programs, more adults into these programs.

00:29:45.209 --> 00:29:49.729

<v Ken>But this is podcast-thon week. So this is a really great opportunity to do that.

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<v Ken>Well, I think we have gotten to the end of our interview.

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<v Ken>I saw a couple of questions come through. Doc wanted to know what your first language was, Ken.

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<v Katie>Yeah, I was going to say, if you're watching out there and you're wherever in

00:30:05.209 --> 00:30:08.329

<v Katie>the world or live or in the replay, and you're thinking, man,

00:30:08.389 --> 00:30:10.389

<v Katie>oh man, I don't live anywhere near Massachusetts,

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<v Katie>but I would like to see if my kid, or maybe you already know,

00:30:16.269 --> 00:30:20.729

<v Katie>or see if my kid or a kid I know might be interested in learning how to code.

00:30:22.149 --> 00:30:29.009

<v Katie>There are a lot of great ways that you can get them involved with that just on the internet.

00:30:29.369 --> 00:30:33.929

<v Katie>So what I always recommend to people is to go, if you have not seen it already,

00:30:34.669 --> 00:30:40.769

<v Katie>go to Scratch, which started out as an MIT project. They're now their own nonprofit

00:30:41.329 --> 00:30:42.709

<v Katie>called the Scratch Foundation.

00:30:43.049 --> 00:30:47.289

<v Katie>But Scratch has been around for, 20 years, I think.

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<v Katie>And it is a website with millions of people using it to code.

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<v Katie>And that is how a lot of kids I meet are already coding before I even meet them, getting good at coding.

00:31:02.809 --> 00:31:07.629

<v Katie>This is the best way out there now to learn how to code.

00:31:07.869 --> 00:31:11.149

<v Katie>And what's cool about Scratch is there's millions and millions and millions

00:31:11.149 --> 00:31:15.789

<v Katie>of programs that other people have created, other kids have created with pictures

00:31:15.789 --> 00:31:21.029

<v Katie>and sounds and whether it's a game or an animation or what and

00:31:22.377 --> 00:31:25.537

<v Katie>The great thing about it is you can look at something somebody

00:31:25.537 --> 00:31:28.717

<v Katie>else made and look inside

00:31:28.717 --> 00:31:31.397

<v Katie>and see how it works nothing is hidden so you

00:31:31.397 --> 00:31:34.337

<v Katie>can see exactly how they made it study it

00:31:34.337 --> 00:31:39.057

<v Katie>figure out how it's working modify it change it play around with it and that

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<v Katie>is how um i got into coding i didn't have the a school in my in my town teaching

00:31:48.097 --> 00:31:51.877

<v Katie>it i didn't i had um great adults in my life you know,

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<v Katie>giving me access to the computer and giving me software.

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<v Katie>But as far as actually learning the coding, there was a similar tool back then called HyperCard.

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<v Katie>If there's any real old school Mac people out there, you'll remember.

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<v Katie>HyperCard, it was way ahead of its time. It's actually still nothing like that out there

00:32:10.437 --> 00:32:16.557

<v Katie>where you could get programs that other people made and see inside them and

00:32:16.557 --> 00:32:20.937

<v Katie>see the code and see how they were working and figure it out on your own.

00:32:21.377 --> 00:32:25.237

<v Katie>Of course there's a bazillion tutorials out there as well for scratch you don't

00:32:25.237 --> 00:32:31.097

<v Katie>have to figure it out on your own um but uh that is something that i would recommend

00:32:31.097 --> 00:32:35.077

<v Katie>if people are looking for something to put their kids in front of because if

00:32:35.077 --> 00:32:36.357

<v Katie>you google it you're just going to find

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<v Katie>mountains of companies trying to trying to sell you stuff scratch is completely free

00:32:42.637 --> 00:32:47.957

<v Katie>you don't need to you don't need to pay for um an online thing if you don't

00:32:47.957 --> 00:32:57.217

<v Katie>want to you can say go to scratch.mit.edu or just Google Scratch and check it out, make an account,

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<v Katie>start coding, follow some of their tutorials, that's the best way to get going.

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<v Katie>George is saying in the comments, he remembers HyperCard. HyperCard,

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<v Katie>how come there's still nothing like that out there? It was amazing.

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<v Katie>We're so good to our HyperCard friends.

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<v Katie>I wish that somebody would make a good version of that online or something and

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<v Katie>maybe modernize it a little bit. That would be amazing.

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<v Ken>Well, we really appreciate everyone hanging out with us here today.

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<v Ken>And huge thank you to all of the podcasts across the world that are participating

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<v Ken>in Podcast Thon this week.

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<v Ken>Make sure that you swing on over and check out some of the other episodes.

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<v Ken>You can go to podcastthon.org. And again, if you want to learn more about Code

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<v Ken>& Circuit or ask any additional questions from Ken and Lori,

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<v Ken>you can find them at codeandcircuit.org.

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<v Ken>And this show is available every single Tuesday. We record Tuesdays live at 12 p.m. Eastern.

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<v Ken>And we release our show because of Captivate.

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<v Ken>Captivate is our podcast host, which makes it really, really easy for us to

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<v Ken>get our podcast out into everyone's hands. You can find our show at flow.ecam.com

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<v Ken>or listen or watch wherever you like to listen or watch to podcasts.

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<v Ken>And as Ken was saying earlier, this episode is actually brought to you by our

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<v Ken>friends at Shure, which make absolutely incredible microphones that help us

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<v Ken>to sound our best when we're here on camera in the Ecamm studio.

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<v Ken>So a huge thank you to them.

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<v Ken>If you're looking for a microphone, literally everything that they make is fantastic.

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<v Ken>But the ones we tend to like are the Shure SM7B, which is a great microphone

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<v Ken>for podcasting, or the MV7 Plus is a little bit lower cost.

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<v Ken>The team here are joining us with the Beta 58s, which we're taking it old school,

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<v Ken>handheld microphones here in the studio space.

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<v Ken>But huge thank you to our friends, Shure, for making this show possible.

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<v Ken>And thank you all of you who are joining us in the live studio audience.

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<v Ken>We really appreciate each and every one of you.

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<v Ken>And we will see you next Tuesday at 12 p.m. Eastern here on YouTube. Thanks everyone.

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<v Lori>Thank you.

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<v Katie>Bye. Bye.

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